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Dopamine Fracking

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raumgeisttoday at 7:50 AM

Reminds me of Adornos "Dialektik der Aufklärung" and its take on what he calls the "Kulturindustrie". Almost 100 years ago he foresaw how the cultural offerings of society get commodified and chopped into bite sized chunks for each individual to receive theirs. He did not forsee us taking it this far, nor the addictive nature of the consumption though.

An additional danger is how this pulls all of us down. Staying with the articles example, by adding artificial strawberries flavour to everything those that could have enjoyed the natural experience never get the opportunity to do so, preventing them from acquiring the taste. Cultural offerings do have some educational responsibility after all.

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hattmalltoday at 5:59 AM

This has been happening in the real world for far longer. It's basically the experience of many modern cities, or even worse suburbs.

Starbucks / Chipotle / Orange Theory / Target / Generic Brewery / Lime Scooter / Waymo / Subscribe N Save

So much of modern life has been comodified to optimize for things that aren't necessarily what's inline with the users interests and certainly don't do anything for cultural robustness.

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raincoletoday at 7:22 AM

> The Strawberry Example

Is this really the best example the author could come up with? If you want fresh strawberries, you can just go to a supermarket and buy them. In many places you can get a few pounds per for less than the money you earn in one hour. It's pretty much a heaven compared to pre-industrial days.

But I guess the analogy of fracking is pretty spot on, just in a way the author didn't realize -- the cons are often exaggerated.

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bsimpsontoday at 4:23 AM

He's right - that phrase evokes what he means better than many alternatives.

But this feels like an article where you get all the useful info in the title. The rest is just a rant about the modern internet being bad for your brain.

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dabedeetoday at 6:01 AM

It's great that someone penned their experience and path towards self-awareness in a way that helps others achieve the same. Or, at least for me, it put words on an uneasy feeling I hadn't yet fully materialized. I too would be saddened if the flattening of our shared human experiences accelerated even more.

simonbarker87today at 8:23 AM

How refreshing to read something not written by an LLM, unless they promoted it extensively with their own writing style first and I’ve been tricked but this felt much nicer to read than a lot of what I’ve read recently

kalxtoday at 7:51 AM

Great read, thanks. Just always consider what you are doing when you tag a friend in a meme: feeding your friend the internet drug. Is that what you wanna do to someone you care about?

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bshepardtoday at 7:22 AM

Anxiety over commodification is very, very old, and tends to miss the upsides of commercial society. Intellectuals, by our nature, focus on problems -- often to the point of creating problems where (perhaps) there were none before. Happily "dopamine fracking" will probably not metamorphose into another menacing sounding anti-commercial phrase. There are enough already.

If you are sympathetic, or even curious, about the advantages of commercial society Deirdre Mccloskey's bourgeoise trilogy is an excellent place to begin.

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euazOntoday at 8:33 AM

Reminds me of Slavoj Zizek’s classic example of synthetic sex (look it up), or his grievances about today’s academia: paper written by ChatGPT, peer reviewed by ChatGPT, and consumed by users as a synthesis from ChatGPT.

teekerttoday at 7:35 AM

I've been forming this thought as well recently, but OP puts it in words perfectly. "Strawberry (+1 for picking it yourself) to Strawberry flavored candy" is indeed "human interaction to my LinkedIn feed", or "intimacy to pron".

All 3 second terms are dopamine hits, feel nice (briefly), you want more and inevitably feel bad and exhausted, useless, weak. Over time you may even loose some important human treats (health, ability to focus, skill in interaction with potential [bed] partners). The firsts are nice rich experiences. Healthy for body and mind (within limits of course).

Humans evolved craving the firsts, as it was difficult to hit unhealthy limits within the world we used to inhabit. The seconds are supra-normal stimuli [0] -> European herring gull chicks will die pecking at a red dot on a pencil as it presents a stronger stimulus than their mother's red dot on the beak (which will make mother bird vomit-up food, example in wikipedia reference). These are good metaphors for what is happening to us: After a long time evolving in the confines of what nature offered, we are suddenly able to manufacture experiences. And we don't think enough about what this means and what it it doing to us, imho.

Or should I say "what we are allowing happen to us"? Not sure if that is good framing, but I think we should take collective action against it. To guard our human-ness. Of course this collides with the personal-freedom principles we build our culture on. I think someday we'll look back on this age as a savage age. As we do. And later generations will find it hard to comprehend how we allowed what is happening at the moment. It's a human (humanity) pattern, but we'll learn, eventually.

Huxley, in Brave New World, predicted this. He could not have foreseen the ways we can now manufacture experiences but isn't "I take a gram and only am" eerily close to Doom Scrolling? “Ending is better than mending” -> "Shop Like a Billionaire" ...

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernormal_stimulus

kubbtoday at 6:32 AM

We’ve come a long way since the term Culture Industry was coined.

The brutal industrial logic governing culture has been extended by the advancements in technology.

I wonder what kind of horrors await us in the future.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_industry

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apt-apt-apt-apttoday at 4:35 AM

I like the idea of the term, but would want capture these:

1. Refinement, where things are made super-concentrated and pure

2. Supernormal stimuli, where the effect becomes unnaturally intense

3. How easy it becomes to consume the result

Something like 'dopamine super-refinement'.

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veunestoday at 8:17 AM

This feels related to Goodhart's law, but applied to pleasure and culture

_fuchstoday at 5:33 AM

Are there good recourses on common pattern/ techniques used for “dopamine fracking“?

We all know a hand full and dome are briefly touched on (emotional triggers). But a list of things to look out for would be nice.

protocolturetoday at 4:27 AM

"movies becoming too Marvel"

I dunno, I love hating modern thing as much as the next guy, but this is just people being hyper sensitive. Your average 80s action comedy quips the same as any Marvel film.

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cardonitoday at 7:11 AM

I would drop the "[do x] instead of listening to me (an idiot) talk about [y]" concept from your brain and all future writing. :)

sd_mikeytoday at 4:47 AM

This seems in the same ballpark as the book Attensity!, which coined the term human fracking.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/jan/18/how-can-we-def...

Aurornistoday at 5:37 AM

This article has an odd juxtaposition between the complaints about apps and commodified content, and the author’s affinity for the very same content.

Right after complaining about the reductive concentration of content, outrage, and popular opinions for mass consumption, they link to a YouTube creator and advise us to go watch the videos. The topic is a reductive description of drug use that blames the bad part on evil capitalists, which is a popular opinion but hardly consistent with history.

They mention deleting apps that lead them to dopamine hits and trigger their outrage, but throughout the article they come back to Discord at where their anger at dopamine fracking was fomented.

I feel like I see this a lot lately where someone is partially aware of their own problems with self-regulation of content and app consumption, but they have a big blind spot for their biggest attention sinks. The common example is the person who proudly tells me they’re “not on social media” because they uninstalled Instagram but they spend 8 hours a day between Discord, Reddit, and gaming with some friends.

fsiefkentoday at 5:33 AM

This dopamine phracking reminds me of neal stephenson's "snow crash".

"[.] a counter-virus (known as the nam-shub of Enki), which, when delivered, stopped the Sumerian language from being processed by the brain and led to the development of other, less literal languages, giving birth to the Babel myth. L. Bob Rife had been collecting Sumerian artifacts and developed the drug Snow Crash to make the public vulnerable to new forms of me, which he would control."

-- wikipedia, Snow Crash

pmg101today at 5:20 AM

A deeper dive would go into why this seems to be such a quintessentially American pursuit.

I'd speculate perhaps something to do with capitalism, and also maybe a culture made out of people coming together from other cultures was more able to throw out "baggage"(ie context) and distil pure experiences.

m4tthumphreytoday at 8:54 AM

So. Many. Commas.

joegaebeltoday at 6:22 AM

May be more clear to refer to it as Foam Banana Candy syndrome

tablatomtoday at 7:52 AM

Relevant: Antidote to the cult of performance, Olivier Hamant.

https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/tracts-n-50-antidote-to-the...

vascotoday at 5:59 AM

Few people I've talked to have had a stable "Why are you here and what is your purpose", and of course you can't even ask this of people who aren't super close to you.

But without that it seems like most people optimize for some form of wireheading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirehead_(science_fiction) through any means possible. I genuinely believe if people could stay home triggering dopamine hits over and over they would. It's as if we read all the philosophers in the world but then went back to the Greek Hedonists.

aryangshahtoday at 5:32 AM

I've been maintaining a log of myself, instead of dopamine franking, I call this 'seeker behavior.' Frankly, adding a name to it is helping me avoid the high and letting me enjoy things more as time goes by, try it out!

epolanskitoday at 8:02 AM

When renovating my house and discussing solutions with my girlfriend I noticed that she (but me too to large extent and most of my millennial friends) felt towards Airbnb-ification.

Good taste and style apparently converged towards generic Airbnb-like design of mixing wood lights, furniture, etc in a certain manner.

This is a well known phenomenon and going around the world, whether in Tokyo, Mumbai, Munich or Dallas most of the newest hotels, offices, private houses or restaurants converge to the same design choices. It feels like you're always in the same place.

Music, videogames, movies, hell, finance even politics are increasingly converging to a small subset of choices that seem to be globally neutral.

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MitPitttoday at 4:36 AM

Humanity was fracking dopamine from art by first painting on cave walls, then oil on canvas, and eventually we got cinematography and video games. Author sounds like a luddite. Feel free to paint on cave walls. Nothing's happening to real strawberries either.

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johnathandostoday at 4:59 AM

"All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses, his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."

keyboredtoday at 7:14 AM

Sin-object fetishization is the act of finding something apparently concrete to blame on what is judged to be sinful behavior. This apparently Christian-origin practice is now secularized, and needs to sound scientific and objective. And since everything that we experience is mediated through the brain or neurons (gut brain) a natural candidate is “dopamine”.

The sin here is hedonic pleasure seeking. You know, in plain words, not misleadingly scientific ones which 99.5% of the word-wielders have no qualifications to meaningfully discuss.

Without this baggage, we can more easily ask why we seek pleasure to an unhealthy degree.

- Pleasure-seeking is natural but needs to be moderated

- Maybe we seek palatable food because try to compensate for a diet that is already bad and thus is missing some nutrients

- Maybe we seek for pron because we are touch-starved

- Maybe we doomscroll because we are distracting ourselves from worry; poor mental hygiene and discipline

- Maybe there is a correlation between nicotine use and stressful occupations or life situations

But with sin-object fetishiziation this gets readily collapsed to a demon, a concrete thing that lives in our brain and is seeking to destroy us. Just say no to dopamine.

This is a matter of living. Thus science—objective, widely agreed upon reality—is very much a secondary concern to most people who care about excessive pleasure seeking. (Not that this is scientific. Just borrowing and appropriation.) Our subjective experience is more important. With subjective words and reflections we can get somewhere. Even study how we ourselves act: when do we pleasure seek, when are we satisfied without it, etc.

But sin-object fetishization is more about the sin than the cure.

> I don't have any solutions.

anal_reactortoday at 7:03 AM

Somebody tell OP that we've been distilling vodka for centuries.

hypfertoday at 7:07 AM

> Written by a human.

That for some reason uses em dashes and writes in a voice that at times I find hard to distinguish from AI.

Man, I'm tired. Are people just lying? Am I just seeing things? Some mystery third option? Is it meta commentary?

Everything is poisoned.

I suppose it feels incorrect regardless of actual AI use, because it's still the LinkedIn thought leader template with relevant current issue.

Which is interesting, because it is so meta.

It has it all. It has the SpongeBob meme for relatability, it has the vague call to action (mindfulness, lmao) at the end. Ugh. Man.

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ares623today at 4:54 AM

Damn, that's a good way to describe it.

andrewvu0203today at 5:23 AM

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sugabushtoday at 5:19 AM

Read the book Attensity they coined this

aboardRat4today at 6:34 AM

>actual fracking, ... is immensely harmful to the long-term health and sustainability of anything it is applied to

This is wrong, obviously.

No ecosystem exists at the depths where fracking is applied.

>Maybe. But it's not a strawberry anymore.

But it allows poor people to actually have some taste of strawberry in their morning meal every day, and not once per year.