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amiga386yesterday at 11:40 PM8 repliesview on HN

Add the lie "emails are delivered instantly, so the user can click a link I email them within 1 minute"

And the lie "users always read emails on the same device they're logging into a website with"

And the lie "users can always view HTML email so no need to send a plaintext equivalent, especially if I have a long complex URL I want them to click"

And the lie "Clickable links sent in email are more secure than passwords so I'll stop supporting passwords and instead rely on email delivery of a link for all logins. Whoever clicks that link first is definitely the user who wanted to log in"


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trumpdongtoday at 12:45 AM

If you try to create a Discord account with Firefox Klar as your default browser, on Android, immediately upon signing up you'll be banned. I have to assume this is because it clears cookies and thinks you're a bot farm.

wodenokototoday at 12:07 AM

If you have a password reset form, you probably already have a log-in with email with extra steps functionality.

techniontoday at 2:22 AM

Claude, for my non Gmail domain, expects me to click a magic link on every device I wish to use it. Its wild that a product like that cannot take a password, or a passkey.

Terr_today at 1:46 AM

> And the lie "users always read emails on the same device they're logging into a website with"

Or the same browser, or the same browser-profile. For example, on my phone I have external links (from other apps) opening in incognito mode by default.

nosioptartoday at 12:47 AM

When I had protonmail, I often wouldn't get emails for hours, sometimes a day.

Most other providers I've used range from instant to a few minutes.

butvacuumtoday at 1:49 AM

I don't think it's about security. It's about fobing off password resets on somebody else.

CPLXtoday at 12:17 AM

> Clickable links sent in email are more secure than passwords so I'll stop supporting passwords and instead rely on email delivery of a link for all logins

God, I fucking hate that.

I have a fucking password manager, I have various machines and things open. Just let me fucking log in.

If anyone is reading this who is in charge of the internet please stop doing this.

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