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MSFT_Edgingtoday at 12:46 PM

This person is either willfully ignorant, or an actual fascist attempting to blur the line.

This exact line of thought has been used for decades to subvert the actual history of the Nazi party and their co-operation with corporations, undermining of labor unions, assault on socialist groups via their brown shirts, etc.

This is a fascist talking point. It doesn't matter where the user possibly derived it from.

The "National Socialist" party was explicitly anti-socialist. Their talking points explicitly refuted class boundaries, and enforced "cultural" boundaries, to create the scapegoat of the Jews as the primary cause for societal turmoil.

Do not take this user seriously. Do not allow yourself to get into the weeds, they will not take any real discussion seriously. They are acting in bad faith.

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Matltoday at 1:44 PM

Anyone can name themselves anything. Would you say that the Democratic Republic of the Congo is indeed democratic? I am going to guess not.

'Socialism' was rather popular in the early part of the 20th century and National Socialism was a right wing response to that, hence the marketing name.

It was very much corporatist/pro capitalist in its policies and suppressed anything remotely socialist within its borders.

But I suspect you knew that.

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jjgreentoday at 12:49 PM

Interesting question. Trotsky argued that the Nazis were essentially a middle-class phenomena, the forces of capital and labour being weakened to naught by the first world war; once the Nazis achieved power, they had to decide between them, that choice being made on the night of the long knives and the liquidation of the brownshirts.

ai_fry_ur_braintoday at 11:08 AM

National Socialists were capitalists.. You known that right? Not everything with socialsts in the name begets communism, they served Industry and Capital to the fullest and sought to crush any leftist cause.

https://jacobin.com/2022/08/nazi-germany-national-socialism-...

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