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tlogantoday at 3:17 AM9 repliesview on HN

If these mRNA vaccines had not been pushed or mandated, more people would probably think they are safe: there will be no need for any of these reviews.

But because they were pushed by the government, many people do not trust them. Sure, they were pushed and mandated for good reasons, but the problem is that a lot of people have already lost trust in the government.

That trust was not lost because of one big decision. It was lost through many small, unrelated government decisions that may not seem noticeable or measurable on their own, but over time, they build up.

I do not know how this trust can be rebuilt but definitely not by publishing more reviews.


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foltiktoday at 3:52 AM

I think it’s the opposite. The _distrust itself_ was pushed by those looking to stir up outrage, generate engagement, and turn it into votes.

Case in point: look at all the people who’ve now built their entire political identities atop this unfalsifiable distrust. They’d even distrust “stand further apart” if the wrong person said it.

> I do not know how this trust can be rebuilt but definitely not by publishing more reviews.

This is the crux. Outrage spreads way faster than the boring truth.

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tomkarhotoday at 5:21 AM

Take the vax or lose your job. Two weeks to flatten the curve. You are killing grandma. "Lab leak" was a dirty word. The science has settled. A bloody live death count on the news.

It seemed that every conceivable way to pressure, force, guilt trip and coerce people into taking the CV was utilized during covid. Enough that no doubt many people are highly suspicious of any authority henceforth and no amount of research will sway them from that. The trust simply isn't there. Yet.

Time is the only cure.

krmboyatoday at 3:29 AM

One word, transparency. Being open about the research and outcomes. This is a situation good science communicators can help with.

Engage the skeptics in open debate and address their concerns, not censorship and embarking on cancellation campaigns.

However uncomfortable it seems, the median person in society isn't going to do a thorough literature review to make up their mind, they'll do it based on personal instincts.

katbytetoday at 3:23 AM

I’m pretty sure it was lost via billions spent on a sustained propaganda campaign no country was willing to stand up to.

guywhocodestoday at 4:50 AM

No I don't think they are safe because I still suffer from the damage it did to my heart

jancsikatoday at 3:31 AM

> I do not know how this trust can be rebuilt but definitely not by publishing more reviews.

Dear Previous Paragraph,

Couldn't many small published reviews which don't show a noticeable or measurable positive effect on their own build up over time to rebuild trust?

Sincerely, Your Reader

Larrikintoday at 3:29 AM

Hopefully at some point the do their own research people will kill themselves off, hopefully before they kill their own kids and family members.

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bsdertoday at 3:44 AM

> If these mRNA vaccines had not been pushed or mandated, more people would probably think they are safe: there will be no need for any of these reviews.

Hogwash. Wakefield predated anything Covid. And measles vaccines aren't mRNA and people would rather let their children die.

Had Trump and Co called the vaccine part of the second coming, people would be lining up at their churches to get them.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

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raincoletoday at 3:23 AM

> But because they were pushed by the government, many people do not trust them. Sure, they were pushed and mandated for good reasons, but the problem is that a lot of people have already lost trust in the government.

In the case of COVID, the effectiveness of vaccines was quite exaggerated at first[0]. That absolutely didn't help government rebuild the trust.

> I do not know how this trust can be rebuilt but definitely not by publishing more reviews.

At this point, quite sure more reviews will only trigger people's confirmation bias and make those who already don't trust vaccines trust them even less.

[0]: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-governm...

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