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Introduction to Genomics for Engineers

108 pointsby yreglast Thursday at 12:28 PM14 commentsview on HN

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maaaaattttttoday at 11:45 AM

This guide is also made from me (or some of the me from a couple years back). I haven't read the whole thing yet and it's probably clearly stated at some point (though one can deduce it with the beginning already) but the surprise for me was that this field is highly statistical. Before starting I had the (very) naive view that it was possible to read the genome as one reads a file and look at what's going on. But the sequencing technics (and accompanying algorithms) only allow to statistically read the genome. So variants/mutations found are only found with a given statistical certainty. If the sample wasn't well prepared for example it could be that this certainty is ultimately not high enough to do a proper analysis/diagnostic. It's a fascinating field (try to watch a video on sequencing by expansion, to feel how sci-fi this field actually is) that is very hard to approach with only high-school biology level and this guide is really well done to sort of bridge this first gap.

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devlovstadtoday at 1:53 PM

I've worked for a year in a lab doing cancer genomics and had to learn everything from scratch, since my background is in computer science.

It's definitely possible to learn enough to be productive within a few months, but to actually comprehend and understand the underlying biology takes much, much longer. I still don't understand much of what is presented by people from other labs outside of my specialty.

fabian2ktoday at 1:08 PM

One part that people from the software side tend to underestimate is how fuzzy and analog everything in biology is. Genomics look more predictable and organized at first, but even these parts are quite fuzzy and subject to all kinds of physical effects.

I'd strongly recommend in reading up on the parts of cell biology that come after this. Otherwise you'll get the wrong impression of how messy biology actually is.

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offbynulltoday at 12:35 PM

If you're an engineer and want to go deeper into the core algorithms behind genomics, there's a book / course called Bioinformatics Algorithms. It was a punishing read when I was going through it a few years ago (but rewarding). It's probably much better now given the state of AI.

[1] https://cogniterra.org/course/64/info

ramon156today at 11:33 AM

Its like this was made for me haha ! I've been reading books about epigenomica to get an understanding. This is cool, will definitely spend my weekend going through it

shnksitoday at 11:19 AM

Love the guide, out of curiosity, what is your background and what inspired you to create this?

shevy-javatoday at 1:47 PM

> In plants and animals, DNA is broken up into a number of large sequences called chromosomes that are tucked into the nucleus.

This is a weird description, because ... it is not really "broken up". Each chromosome could be shuffled and put into different cells in different numbers. Now, it is unlikely that the resulting cell would be viable or useful, but my contention here is the "broken up" part. Chromosomes are just a way to handle the genome set. There are reasons why bacteria do not have chromosomes and this has mostly to do with the amount of DNA. To call this "breaking up" is a very strange description. (Size is not the only reason; duplication of the DNA before cell division is another important factor; bacteria usually have just one origin of replication, eukaryotes have several on each chromosome, otherwise the S-phase in the cell cycle would simply take too long.)

> Each genome is a biochemical database that, if properly accessed, can inform how our bodies function.

This is also a very strange description, aka "biochemical database". Not everything in a genome has a role with regards to biochemistry or metabolism. Some is just regulatory RNA; some of this relates to metabolism, but you also have e. g. piwiRNA or silencers of transposons and so forth. That in itself has only very rarely a biochemical function, with some exceptions (e. g. I would classify tRNA as related to metabolism, and many viruses have tRNA or use tRNA as quick-starters, but most of those regulatory RNAs do not have any function for metabolism directly, other than e. g. repurposing energy towards their own reproduction).

To me it seems as if the article was written by an engineer. That's fine, but it also means that the thinking is quite biased. Genetics is not quite so easy to engineer; a good example are leaky promoters used in synthetic biology (just ask the people who use such promoters how to make them un-leaky) or off-target cleavage effects in CRISPR-Cas(9 or whatever is used); I am pretty certain they'll give excuses as to why 100% accurate gene therapy isn't yet ready for the masses. And they'll do that for quite some years to come, I bet, usually hiding behind "it will cost too much" - when in reality, it should cost very little, if it were to work, rather than this just becoming the new meta-milking scheme.

rvztoday at 12:28 PM

> This Guide is written specifically by and for computer scientists and engineers. The underlying biology in cancer genomics can be exceedingly complex and requires years of study.

This looks like a great guide to read.

But I think before diving deeper and reading the rest of the guide, which granted it is from employees working in a lab inside of a hospital, I'd like to get the expert opinion of a geneticist or an expert biologist with years of experience in genomics to iron out any issues in the guide or give an additional proof-reading review.

pullruntoday at 12:21 PM

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