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vlovich123today at 12:04 PM4 repliesview on HN

Reminds me, did the AI companies redistribute that copyrighted material to others and make their money that way? Did Kim use the copyrighted material to generate something novel from it?

copyright law literally says something isn’t infringement if it is a novel transformation. I get the jokes and criticism about AI companies fighting and complaining about competitors distilling, but this is a much weirder comparison.


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root-parenttoday at 12:12 PM

Now you just have to explain this:

"Anthropic settles with authors in first-of-its-kind AI copyright infringement lawsuit" - https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5529404/anthropic-settl...

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andersonpicotoday at 12:49 PM

But distribution isn't the only crime here, obtaining the material illegally apparently is a crime too. And the damn robot can also spit me harry Potter verbatim so I don't know how it would also not be distribution?

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samrustoday at 1:50 PM

They redistributed the statistical patterns of those copyrighted materials. Which perhaps should be treated similarly nos

As for your "technically not copyright infringement" defense. Those laws are from a time when those patterns couldnt be derived and dostributed at scale. A human had to learn and teach them. That made it different. The scale enabled my modern tech makes it a whole dofferent situation. The same way how one person standing a street corner people watching for a bit isnt that bad, but a whole constellation of flock cameras costantly montioring everyones movements and making it available to any of their customers is really really bad. The law will have to catch up to this

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cryptonymtoday at 12:53 PM

This is confusing. I can torrent everything and do what I want with it, as long as I don't redistribute the exact same thing?

If so, why do we still pay for games and movies?

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