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gnfargbltoday at 9:01 AM2 repliesview on HN

You're looking at the status quo and ignoring the trajectory. The best current open models are about as good as closed models from ~1.5 generations ago. The rate of improvement of all models is converging to zero. It follows that in a few generations, open models inferencing will be about as good as closed model inferencing.

The problem is going to become that there's no incentive for anyone to run the stupidly-expensive training phase. May God have mercy on the stock market.


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zild3dtoday at 11:50 AM

>The rate of improvement of all models is converging to zero.

Curious where you draw this conclusion from? Most benchmarks still show continual steady progress https://metr.org/time-horizons/

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NitpickLawyertoday at 10:24 AM

> The rate of improvement of all models is converging to zero.

That's so obviously not true that I don't even think it's worth the energy to even debate it. It's been said for years, yet here we are, constantly improving. People really don't get RL / the bitter lesson, do they?

> It follows that in a few generations, open models inferencing will be about as good as closed model inferencing.

Not a chance. There's hundreds of billions of dollars on one side, and oom less on the other. There's also scaling laws and information theory. No matter how good, a 30B model will not be able to be better than a 3T+ model, all things being equal.

You are mistaking models becoming "good enough" for an increasingly number of tasks, which I agree is happening, with SotA models stagnating, hitting walls etc. That will not happen for many many years to come.