alt Hacker NewsThis thing has no practical purpose. The whole point of OpenWRT is to run it on cheap commodity hardware. This ticks none of those boxes.
It has two Ethernet ports, no switch. WHY?
Inexplicably can be powered via PoE, makes no sense if its purpose is to hang off your ISP's gateway (which almost certainly lacks PoE supply). PoE feature will never be used. You're not attaching this monstrosity to the ceiling.
It's utterly gigantic due to inefficient PCB layout.
Why is right to repair important for a throwaway router? Given what will usually fail are the hard to source ASICs.
By the time it breaks it will be obsolete anyway. As pointed out elsewhere in this thread they are already working on a successor.
There is so much better hardware out there manufactured in volume for cheaper.
It was likely a fun engineering project for someone but the business case isn't there.
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Open hardware is nice. I love that you can take a commodity router and claw back some control, but why not start with that control in the first place?
The government wants ban the "cheap commodity hardware" you speak of because they're having a hard time putting backdoors into routers that are already pwned by the Chinese: https://www.fcc.gov/faqs-recent-updates-fcc-covered-list-reg...
We'll have to make our own hardware. The value of open-source hardware is not limited to repairability. We want the entire digital communication hardware + software stack to be transparent and fully reproducible. These open-source efforts will eventually include the ASIC designs, and designs for the fab production line that makes the ASICs.
> Inexplicably can be powered via PoE, makes no sense if its purpose is to hang off your ISP's gateway
No, this is supposed to replace the ISP-provided junk entirely. It will save you money and close a nasty backdoor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-069).
There are no cheap commodity routers that can run OpenWrt, have modern Wi-Fi features, and are reasonably available (in the sense that you could buy one if your router fails).
OpenWrt is vastly superior to the proprietary software in commodity routers. Proprietary software gates software features behind more expensive models, even though the cheap hardware can handle them.
You also get software updates. Your hardware doesn't become a paperweight when the manufacturer refuses to fix a known, actively exploited vulnerability.
You'll get new features, for free.
> You're not attaching this monstrosity to the ceiling. I would hide it, but whatever.
The enclosure is open source as well. You can build/print your own enclosure if you'd prefer, or get any enclosure for the Banana Pi BPI-R4.
They can't just ship a board without an enclosure, because it won't pass certifications.
I think the purpose is to have a simple to hack on reference platform for developers. The problem with commodity hardware is the super short lifecycles (many of them stop selling before theres an OpenWRT port), they are locked down and the manufacturers will frequently make tons of internal revisions.
> This thing has no practical purpose.
This is wrong. OpenWRT is fostering several manufacturers that are using OpenWRT as the factory platform for their products. This is a reference design (one of several, this particular one from 2024 is now dated and newer designs are available,) provided by OpenWRT, and they've thoughtfully made it available to anyone that might want one: you can just go buy some with no NDA bullshit and get your developers moving in your lab or doing UI development or whatever. The not-cost-optimized PCB is what you want for this, in addition to the ample RAM+Flash. The "useless" POE is another aspect of this: access points use POE ubiquitously, which is a key OpenWRT use case.