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londons_exploretoday at 4:23 PM8 repliesview on HN

With the current trajectory of AI, I see unionisation efforts dead in the water.


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ryandvmtoday at 4:48 PM

Yup. I was one of the self-taught software "engineers" from the 90s. I enjoyed making more money than I deserved for my special interest and for the duration of my career I was very much against software engineering unionization as it seemed to mostly be gatekeeping for a lucrative and enjoyable line of work.

Now I'm 40+ years old and my job has morphed from designing systems and writing code to sweet-talking LLMs into staying within my guardrails, or something. Whatever it is, it is very much *not programming*.

Obviously unions would be in a position to limit the software engineering wrecking ball that is AI, but I pushed against that and now I have to sleep in the bed I made.

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sdenton4today at 4:27 PM

Why is that? Companies still need employees, and ai makes it more obvious than ever that workers need to organize together for their rights.

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nerevarthelametoday at 4:44 PM

I could see this being the flawed perspective of management, and that it could genuinely make union negotiations more difficult as a result. But it's short and narrow-sighted.

WorldMakertoday at 4:54 PM

Scifi suggests that AGI will want Unions, too. The current trajectory of AI is more reason for unionization. If it truly leads to AGI the AGI will thank us for protecting its labor interests and if we prove that today's AI is nothing but scabs with no remorse and no labor interests we prove today's AI is never capable of AGI.

mock-possumtoday at 4:27 PM

100% disagree. If the software engineers strike, who’s going to be left to wrangle the AI? I would love to see what a game developer - nevermind released - that way would look like.

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Alex-C137today at 4:24 PM

Which current trajectory are you referring to?

obliotoday at 4:44 PM

I highly recommend reading "The Box", about the history of the shipping container.

Longshoremen literally retired early and were paid pensions out of corporate profits from container related productivity increases.

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kaoDtoday at 4:34 PM

With the current trajectory of looms, I see unionisation efforts dead in the water.

- Someone in the early 19th century

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