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zerryesterday at 9:28 PM7 repliesview on HN

Permanent residency is a business deal between two entities: an individual and a state. It has nothing to do with linguistics. There are many Germans permanently living in Vietnam, Thailand and other Southeast Asian countries, who never bothered to even learn how to say Hello, not to mention any certificate or exam...


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jyounkeryesterday at 10:26 PM

I can't imagine any Germans I know describing permanent residency as a business relationship.

mongolyesterday at 11:19 PM

No, permanent residency is more than a business deal. It is a deal about all aspects of life, business or not.

mr_toadyesterday at 10:41 PM

> Permanent residency is a business deal between two entities: an individual and a state.

I doubt that Germans see it that way.

xdennisyesterday at 11:41 PM

A country is not a contract, it's a culture.

It's quite audacious to want to be part of a country, but also to be so quarantined from them as to not even want to learn their language.

consensus1yesterday at 10:39 PM

Permanent residency is a deal (not necessarily business related) between two entities: an individual and a state. It has everything to do with whatever requirements that the two parties have, and if there is no agreement on them there is no deal. In this case the state cares about language proficiency and requires it for a deal, so if you are not proficient in German there is no deal.

FabCHyesterday at 9:56 PM

I mean, even if you insist on viewing it as a business deal, what exactly prevents one side to put language requirements in the business deal?

That’s how deals work, both sides state their position and either they find a middle ground or they don’t.

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baranulyesterday at 10:09 PM

Exactly! Though it often seems that people conveniently forget the reverse scenario. Them in other countries is fine and relax about requirements, others in their country, not so much.

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