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cpt100today at 2:42 PM4 repliesview on HN

Yeah, I think it is definitely great. Having said that, I am still debating in my mind whether the volume of software engineers needed in the AI era is going to increase or decrease because of all of these advancements.

On the one hand, because it is easy to build products, more and more people will build. And more and more products and features will be built. However, a lot of people who are non-technical will also try to build, but they get stuck, and then they will need engineers. The sheer volume of product built by both experienced technical companies and non-technical novice startups and founders and wannabe founders is going to be massive. That is the bull case for having more software engineers needed in the near future.

On the other hand, in a year or so, people will build all these products, and most of them won't be able to market them, sell them and make money. Eventually, there won't really be a need for that many software engineers.

I think overall the bull case is probably going to win net net.


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linkjuice4alltoday at 2:50 PM

I see some similarities to 3D printing here. It’s great that everyone can make their own toothbrush holder (or whatever) but I’m probably not going to pay for someone’s weekend project.

I’m “seeing” more devs stepping into the SendCutSend stage where they’re cleaning up/fixing/productizing vibe coded projects so maybe there will be some new demand in that space?

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hraxztoday at 5:20 PM

The big thing to me is why are we even running these models on top of an operating system?

What I really want is Claude as a deep part of the operating system.

If that happens then a whole lot of the abstraction of software vanishes along with what we think of today as software jobs. I think many new forms of knowledge work would emerge from this though.

I would think that needs massive local compute but I can't imagine that is not the future down the line.

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BugsJustFindMetoday at 2:47 PM

> On the one hand, because it is easy to build products, more and more people will build.

And those people won't need to be software engineers.

> but they get stuck, and then they will need engineers

You've implicitly assumed here that the AI systems will always be worse than the average engineer. That is IMO myopic. I'm not sure that it's even true now let alone in the nebulous future.

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Lomliototoday at 2:51 PM

At least in China a lot of software developers are now struggling.

I think for a lot of type of software we have now reached peak employment.

Someone payed a few k just for a normal website.

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