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johnsmith1840yesterday at 11:59 PM2 repliesview on HN

As the largest AI scappers on the planet.. sure

They don't have nearly enough compute to be competitive on pretraining and distillation is exponentially cheaper.

It's literally the same tactic they do in every industry. Steal top IP, gov funding, ban the company they stole from domestically while driving cost to zero, try to kill the original IP creators.

They are actively in the process of doing this with Tesla as we speak. And are in the phase of pushing them out domestically and trying to destroy tesla marketshare globally.

They have obvious skills and add a lot of value while doing this but US could stop all of this by simply stopping their supply.


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ValentineCtoday at 2:54 AM

> They are actively in the process of doing this with Tesla as we speak. And are in the phase of pushing them out domestically and trying to destroy tesla marketshare globally.

What did China do to Tesla? Aren't the EV firms there more innovative and successful because of the China domestic push towards EV and government incentives around the world?

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throwaway27448today at 12:54 AM

> Steal

It's competition, buddy. If you don't think we got big the same way you're nuts. And anyone who is trying to kill tesla has my money.

Anyway, I don't think there's much worth stealing at the moment. Chinese models provide much better value than any american firm.

> but US could stop all of this by simply stopping their supply.

A) good luck trying to prevent access to a service and b) this is obvious cope. Of course the chinese can compete; there's no american magic beyond "having loads of money and nearby universities", which china has too.

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