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mcvtoday at 12:02 AM4 repliesview on HN

Do people want to restrict 16 year olds with phones? That seems like a really bad idea. For 10 year olds it makes sense, but 16 is nearly adult; they need to really learn this responsibility. And of course they need a phone when they go out like these girls.

A bit of a weird tangent from what apparently is harassment in a train or something like that? I admit it's hard to follow what is going on.


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alwatoday at 12:21 AM

Seems wise to experience at least a little bit of “functioning as an adult in the world” independently of phone habits…

It seems like, in this situation, we watch primarily non-phone-enabled virtues save the day: a clear sense of right and wrong, assertiveness, courage, steadiness in a tense situation, an attentive social environment with bystanders who both noticed and backed each other up…

Even having practiced some of those skills in moving through the world, I worry that, if I were a phone-carrying person, I’d be tempted to “just record it and let the internet sort it out.” Which is orthogonal to fixing the wrong in the moment.

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GeekyBeartoday at 12:52 AM

Personally, I would rather see public resources used to teach parents how to use the existing controls (in iOS and Android) to restrict what their own kids can do on their own smartphone.

However, if a school district wants to restrict the use of smartphones during the school day for all students, I would be OK with that.

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NoMoreNicksLefttoday at 12:53 AM

> And of course they need a phone when they go out like these girls.

Do teens need phones? Sure, they need a phone. Arguably any child old enough to know how to make a phone call needs one. But do they need a miniature computer to scroll through AI slop 10+ hours a day?

These aren't the same question. Confusing these two is dangerous.

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testing22321today at 12:08 AM

Do people really want to restrict 16 year olds with alcohol? 16 is nearly adult, they need to learn responsibility

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