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RajT88yesterday at 3:26 PM4 repliesview on HN

They're building a mass of DC's near me as well in northern IL (not quite as many as by you). I see a lot of weird stuff on social media - people inactive for years all of a sudden becoming super-activists and posting non-stop anti-DC content. Nearly identical content to what's being pushed by a bunch of faceless accounts named like "Water4All","Nature Reign" - something vaguely environmental sounding.

Talking points like:

"We should call data centers what they actually are: surveillance centers designed to put us all in a digital prison by 2030"

It's fishy. People aren't quite showing up and saying the same things at city council meetings, but the local city anti-DC group is full of people reposting this stuff. One clickbait article in particular, "there's no such thing as a closed loop system".

There's real concerns with the data centers. But, the opposition to them doesn't feel entirely organic (imo).


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milkshakesyesterday at 3:28 PM

nyt is no fan of AI, but they cover this: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/09/business/china-russia-ai-...

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lightedmanyesterday at 7:13 PM

"there's no such thing as a closed loop system"

That's not incorrect though; you're still needing to shed the heat energy SOMEWHERE. Thermodynamics alone dictates that basic fact. You may not waste the cooling solution but all that excessive GPU heat is going to need to go somewhere - and the only place it ultimately goes is right into the environment.

Ever stand a bit away from a campfire because you got too warm, only to have the wind hit it and blow hot air over you? Same thought exercise applies here.

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watwutyesterday at 4:50 PM

> We should call data centers what they actually are: surveillance centers designed to put us all in a digital prison by 2030

I mean, isnt that what Karp, Thiel are openly saying and one of the things Antropic doom trolls about?

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fragmedeyesterday at 3:56 PM

It's almost as if Russia or China wants to see America not succeed.

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