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DARPA, U.S. Air Force fly AI-controlled F-16

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1970-01-01today at 3:40 PM

     All Stealth bombers are upgraded with Cyberdyne computers, becoming fully unmanned. Afterwards they fly with a perfect operational record. The Skynet funding bill is passed. The system goes on-line on August 4, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
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odyssey7today at 7:40 PM

Tangent: is AI a bearable arm?

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SoftTalkertoday at 4:12 PM

> The kit utilizes a novel interface with the aircraft’s flight controls and mission systems, allowing a pilot to toggle between traditional human control and AI control with the flip of a switch. This ensures a safe, reliable environment for human-on-the-loop experimentation.

How, exactly, does that ensure a safe reliable environment? Humans are pretty bad at suddenly taking over when an automatic system reaches its limits and throws a problem in the human's lap. A lot of air upsets and crashes start when the autopilot disengages and hands control of a badly configured aircraft back to a human pilot.

Zsfe510asGtoday at 4:07 PM

The article smells of AI psychosis. They are already "orchestrating".

In the first Iraq war, they went in and won. In the second one, it took years to sort of occupy the country.

Now they struggle against Iran and "orchestrate" F-16s that can be shot down instantly by AA weapons. Since COVID the world has collectively lost its mind.

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seydortoday at 3:46 PM

Sounds like a very expensive drone

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smrtinserttoday at 7:19 PM

I thought Captain America personally stopped this initiative

alexnewmantoday at 7:37 PM

Finally. I hope they do a10!

ionwaketoday at 7:21 PM

based, finally we get to Macross Plus

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tyjentoday at 4:39 PM

Human control in flight has often taken a backseat to automation. For example, the SR-71, built in the 60s flew too fast to rely on human decision making for several tasks. If they were off by a fraction of a second, they would miss their intended recon target; so, both the navigation and sensor control were largely automated.

Seems odd to invest this much into AI flight of aircraft designed for manned flight, when it would be better to build craft spec'd for AI flight without human life support systems.

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recursivedoubtstoday at 3:55 PM

  A computer can never be held accountable

  Therefore a computer must make all unpopular management decisions
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chistoday at 4:39 PM

Absolutely terrifying. I'm sure they will soon find that AI pilots defeat human ones in dogfights 100% of the time, since they have faster reaction times, can tolerate higher G forces, and can be perfectly RL trained in the flight sims we already have.

It's really incredible to me that people aren't protesting in the streets over this stuff. Just in the last month we have * AI that goes rogue and hacks billion-dollar companies * AI solving long-standing math problems without any meaningful human help * AI controlled autonomous drones in Ukraine and F-16s in America * AI now represents over 50% of GDP growth in America and yearly capex will soon exceed the size of the $1 trillion US military budget

Is there any line where the public will become deeply concerned? I mean it really all reads like a sci-fi plot with a bad ending at the moment.

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brcmthrowawaytoday at 6:45 PM

I'm waiting for a ship called Nomad to go rogue.

robotnikmantoday at 4:20 PM

The drones of Ace Combat 7 are coming closer to reality

reactordevtoday at 4:30 PM

This is a huge waste of resources. F-16s were designed for humans. You can get MUCH better results designing the airframe around the lack of one.

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calebiotoday at 3:56 PM

Hey look, the lawn darts are now AI-controlled.

willmaddentoday at 3:59 PM

What a waste of resources.

yashthakkertoday at 4:15 PM

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megoustoday at 4:39 PM

Not a great thing for aggressive state prone to electing nutjobs and supporting genocides to have automated killing machines that will not even get PTSD afterwards.

belochtoday at 7:30 PM

Autonomous driving is still nowhere near 100%, so why suddenly jump to fighter jets? Is this more of Hegseth's foolhardy bluster and injected testosterone? The tech isn't ready. They should start with golf-karts, not fighter planes.

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