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budsniffer952today at 10:05 AM10 repliesview on HN

Popped over to HackerNews, read two comment sections and the top comments in both articles were users saying the same thing: "AI can't write code! The whole thing will come crumbling down any minute! Just you wait!"

I've never seen this community like this. Are these people cooked? We are years into this and they haven't been able to figure it out? They are going to continue to tell people using these tools successfully every day that, actually, it's just a mirage?


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techblueberrytoday at 11:48 AM

This is roughly in line with where the thought leadership is:

https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/context-engineeri...

But you know, maybe you’re having a better experience? You should be a consultant.

Kirotoday at 10:21 AM

Yeah, it's baffling. I can't relate to these statements at all. What are people doing? Surely the smart people of HN would have been able to figure this out a long time ago.

I also don't find these people in real life. Even the most junior developers I know are able to navigate this without creating this supposed mess.

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dakollitoday at 11:04 AM

They aren't that great, they can be helpful, but they mostly make lazy people seem and feel less lazy. Maybe that's you? Maybe that's me as well, idk, but when you look close, these things can easily cause more problems than they solve (more often than not ime). No I'm not holding it wrong, I got more token consumption than most here probably, I have access to all the models, unlimited, I'm not that impressed.

I've personally seen the consequences of someone who naively thought these tools could help them execute on their ideas and I wouldn't be surprised if they end up in prison because of it.

IAmGraydontoday at 10:46 AM

Interesting. What product and/or project have you successfully launched with it?

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bakugotoday at 1:04 PM

> The whole thing will come crumbling down any minute

It is crumbling down as we speak. There's more software being pumped out than ever, but it's also buggier, more bloated, and just generally worse than ever.

A few days ago I had to revert to an older version of an open source project I use regularly, because the author turned full vibe coder and has pushed hundreds of AI generated commits in just a few weeks, at least one of which completely broke an important feature I relied on.

Whether or not you consider putting out software that technically meets the minimum requirements but is a buggy, broken mess to be a success depends entirely on your personal definition of success. Maybe you do, and you are entitled to your opinion. But once again I feel the need to remind people that we humans did not get where we are today by always doing the bare minimum. If everyone throughout history shared this mentality, we'd still be banging rocks in caves.

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themgttoday at 11:54 AM

Blub is good enough for him, because he thinks in Blub.

tovejtoday at 10:22 AM

What people? What is the definition of success?

You can't appeal to something happening in the real world if you don't say what you mean.

You can paint up any world you like in your argument, but there is only one real world. Please tell us who it is, in the real world, that the hacker news crowd is gaslighting.

cyanydeeztoday at 11:14 AM

you have to remember, 70 million people voted for the current US regime and many of them billionaires.

The ability to delude ones self and not pay attention to the "facts on the code" is moumentally built into the human condition.

Everyones experience is some unique snowflake of just how easy their mental gymnastics are.

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smoldertoday at 11:09 AM

> Are these people cooked?

Yes. This is a weird kind of denial about the LLMs that cost nation-state levels of energy doing human nerd work.

They aren't perfect at all, but there's very little reason to be anything but a prompt engineer and proof reader anymore.

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