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vjvjvjvjghvtoday at 7:39 PM4 repliesview on HN

Losing Ive was probably a good thing for Apple. I often feel that after a few years these big guys have done what they could do and somebody else can take it from there. So far even losing Jobs didn’t hurt Apple as it looks.


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aleph_minus_onetoday at 9:58 PM

> Losing Ive was probably a good thing for Apple.

The position that I have rather often read on the internet is: Jonathan Ive did very good work at Apple as long as there was a counterpart who could steer his creative vision. This counterpart was of course Steve Jobs. When Steve Jobs died, there wasn't such a counterpart anymore, so Ive's work for Apple got much worse.

dannywtoday at 8:01 PM

The MacBooks certainly got a lot better and more usable.

Anyone remember the touchpad MBP with no physical escape key and the butterfly keyboard?

(Respect to many of Ive’s great legacy though)

LarsDu88today at 8:24 PM

Jony Ive wanted to chop down all the trees at De Anza Community College for something like 11 million dollars for an Apple event. There's a lot of ways he was demanding in the wrong ways for Apple

re-thctoday at 7:57 PM

> So far even losing Jobs didn’t hurt Apple as it looks.

Who knows? Pure speculation? You can also say if Jobs was still around they could have 10x-ed it even further?

Apple car could have been a thing? Apple could have been way ahead and actually competing in AI and data centers? Who knows what else Jobs could have came up with?

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