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U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

251 pointsby ceejayoztoday at 12:42 PM199 commentsview on HN

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astro1234today at 2:40 PM

As a data scientist it is very frustrating to see a consistent lack of error bars on these numbers or any discussion about the magnitude of uncertainty around them by all news reports every time these numbers get released

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Waterluviantoday at 3:05 PM

Meanwhile Canada is up 75,000 jobs in July. Can't wait to see the next tantrum America throws our way.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-jobs-july-2026-9.729...

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sp1982today at 2:34 PM

I have recently started an experiment tracking a sample of 5000 employers in US and I see a bounce last week after a brief lull in july. I am not sure if there is a strong downward trend. https://corvi.careers/reports/usa-weekly-job-openings-report...

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nuneztoday at 3:04 PM

> The BLS said employment contracted the most in “local government education,” which declined by 50,000 roles, likely reflecting teachers during summer break.

This is not entirely accurate. AFAIK, teachers usually remain on payroll throughout the summer. This stat _might_ be talking about contractual teaching roles, like adjuncts or subs, but it's hard to say from that BLS category.

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forlorn_mammothtoday at 1:42 PM

What is also interesting is that the only sector thad added jobs was health care.

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ethagnawltoday at 1:59 PM

And, as a result, the market is ... up?

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jimmydoetoday at 2:07 PM

govt is resetting the baseline now, so we will see some good numbers in November.

it's all about optics for mid term.

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purplemoonxtoday at 2:52 PM

The big mystery: Will the Fed raise or lower interest rates??? Quick! To the glasses guy:

-whispering to self-

"carry the 2... oh no this can't be good"

-pencil noises-

I solved the equation!!!

We must lay off 1 million more, it is the only way to fix the interest rate!

You guys care about the interest rate don't you???

No more jobs until the books are balanced!!!

We have to it's the only way

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blurbleblurbletoday at 3:03 PM

All part of the misanthropic plan?

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HarHarVeryFunnytoday at 2:01 PM

These jobs lost/gained and unemployment statistics, especially on a monthly basis, and when the numbers are so small, are just noise. Seasonal adjustments alone (baseline assumptions on how many people should be employed) make them meaningless, as does the government definition of being unemployed or looking for work.

As far as the government is concerned if you have been looking for a job for so long and/or are so discouraged that you stop looking, then you are no longer "unemployed" since you are not looking for a job.

If you are software engineer who has not been able find a software job, and are now flipping burgers to at least have some income, then you have also dropped off the government stats since you now have a job.

And then you have the current president's habit of just lying about everything, and threatening anyone who doesn't support his lies, and it seems we have truly entered a post-truth world where "alternate facts" rule the day.

When you read headlines of companies laying off thousands of employees, that's real. When the government says they've retroactively adjusted their seasonally adjusted fake news, then not so much.

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ceejayoztoday at 1:27 PM

Note, also:

> In yet another troubling sign for the labor market, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said that it revised down the prior two months by a combined 103,000. May’s jobs total was cut by 66,000 to 129,000 total jobs added, while June’s total was lowered by 37,000 to a total gain of 57,000.

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cyanmoonxtoday at 2:17 PM

Sudden reversal? It’s been the apocalypse for several years with each year getting worse

debo_today at 2:14 PM

Meanwhile, Canada adds 75k jobs in the same month.

> Gains were focused on the private sector, with strength in wholesale and retail trade, finance and insurance, and professional and scientific services. Public sector jobs fell by 14,500 amid an official bid to cut government spending.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/economy/article-can...

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Vareliontoday at 2:40 PM

Who actually believes these numbers?

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mapping365today at 2:40 PM

I love how this is immediately used as an excuse to reinflate the AI bubble. Silicon Valley and Wall Street are just begging for backlash.

1over137today at 1:52 PM

Meanwhile Canada added 75,000 new jobs in July. Perhaps Trump's tariff scheme is not working so well after all.

https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/9.7299225

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Simulacratoday at 1:20 PM

Interesting, this article doesn't seem to mention the layoffs from the tech industry. Which, if you look at the numbers, sort of make up the bulk of it.

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mindcrimetoday at 2:04 PM

Guess it's time for Trump to fire another BLS director and find one who's better at cooking the books...

stego-techtoday at 1:44 PM

Vertical Thinkers: “Who could’ve seen this coming when all the data looks good?!”

Lateral Thinkers: quietly sipping tea, nursing our wounds from layoffs, lamenting another unheard Cassandra moment.

Basically sums up the mood, I find. Don’t worry, we’re always steeping a fresh pot for the new club members when stories like these hit the wire.

recsv-heredoctoday at 1:26 PM

"sudden"

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bwat49today at 1:31 PM

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throwfaraway135today at 1:46 PM

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catigulatoday at 1:58 PM

The great reversal is happening. It was about time to quell the bubble-sayers.

bekimbacajtoday at 2:16 PM

firstly :: "economy" cannot lose jobs because it doesn't have any. Secondly :: there is absolutely no way for you to know it.

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cs02rm0today at 2:12 PM

Still has a long way to go to catch us up on the other side of the pond.