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scrlktoday at 10:50 AM7 repliesview on HN

Will be interesting to see how Qwen3.8 27B compares against this once it releases this week. Seems like dense 30B is back in fashion?

EDIT: An open weight version of Muse Spark 1.2 is going to be released as well:

https://x.com/alexandr_wang/status/2086756152034066792

https://xcancel.com/alexandr_wang/status/2086756152034066792


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pu_petoday at 11:33 AM

Based on the benchmarks, it seems that Muse Glimmer barely edges out against Qwen3.6 27B, except for tool-calling skills (MCP, etc.). I wouldn't be surprised if they released it now because they are afraid they wouldn't beat Qwen3.8 27B.

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karimftoday at 11:32 AM

Yes, and also waiting for the next iteration of Gemma. Muse or Qwen are optimized for coding, while IMO Gemma is still better for non-coding tasks.

https://x.com/osanseviero/status/2086107547535122767

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Gecko4072today at 11:24 AM

Makes me feel hopeful. Things felt more positive around the llama 3 era. Now it’s like a dark, dreadful race.

wronglebowskitoday at 10:52 AM

It’s really interesting timing, Qwen over thinking is what kills it for me. I’m just glad we have more options in this size class now.

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imilevtoday at 12:02 PM

yes i think everyone is waiting to see that ;d, i've been on qwen for the last year and a half now.

ignoramoustoday at 11:48 AM

> Seems like dense 30B is back in fashion?

Surprising that Meta don't host this model, even as rate-limited free-tier.

> open weight version of Muse Spark 1.2

Wait. Is this "version" different from what Meta serves?

lostmsutoday at 11:22 AM

It seems worse than 3.6, but a bit smaller.

UPD. was wrong on smaller, it's actually much larger

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