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ofjcihenyesterday at 11:34 PM1 replyview on HN

What data here is false? How do you gish gallop in writing?


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npilktoday at 1:11 AM

I would say Ed makes three main claims in this post:

1) Companies are spending a ton on capex for future AI compute

2) Current levels of AI revenue are not enough to recoup that capex spend

3) Revenues won’t increase enough in the future to recoup that capex spend

Almost anyone, bubbler or not, would agree with points 1 and 2. But Ed cites dozens of numbers from different sources to repeat and reinforce them. It feels to me like an effort to overwhelm the reader with data to support his overall argument. That’s what I would call a gish gallop.

The third point is a prediction. He cites a lot of facts and numbers here too, but ultimately whether you believe his prediction is going to depend on your assumptions.

The thing is, I really would love to see a detailed analysis of capex spend and amortization. Capex spent on the future is a big unknown. But the big labs have claimed they are profitable on inference. How much capex was invested to create the capacity to serve current models? How much revenue is coming from serving those models? What does the full profitability picture look like? What does that imply for future demand needs?

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