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It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

97 pointsby zazuketoday at 3:30 PM57 commentsview on HN

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synalxtoday at 4:12 PM

I have this problem even in codebases. Claude will work on something, and add detailed comments in which it extrapolates the from the design and confidently states intentions and decisions which aren't actually grounded in reality. Then, later sessions suffer when it reads back those hallucinations and treats them as canonical.

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r0b05today at 7:31 PM

My second brain is 500 open tabs of Notepad++

ssivarktoday at 7:01 PM

> It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

Yes! And that's because you can't really delegate ownership/authorship to AI (at today's capability levels). Coding agents might have been RL'd out the wazoo to write code to solve well defined problems, but given a situation the onus of making sense of the ambiguity and identifying the problem -- and even crafting a skeleton for an acceptable solution keeping in mind tradeoffs -- needs to be done by a human taking ownership.

I wrote about this recently from a slightly different angle [1], but the core idea is the same -- which is why it is hard to take over an idea mooted by AI. Before even writing/implementing, the AI has internally resolved ambiguity with several decisions which are arbitrary, and match neither your mental model nor the actual ground reality (which you need to spend time understanding in order to productively interpret).

[1] https://woventhought.substack.com/p/ai-assistants-need-adapt...

mccoybtoday at 5:33 PM

I don't get the second brain thing. I don't keep a second brain, I just read and think a lot. I once did a physics masters and, when asked how to make steady progress, one of the professors (who had published with Paul Dirac no less) made the comment "well, my secret is that I think about physics all the time"

I started practicing this for the stuff I'm interested in ... and the result is that I generate a lot of ideas. 99% of them are garbage.

Before AI, a conversation with colleagues would help me weed out the garbage, and possibly give me a new perspective ("here's something surprising about what you just said!")

Now, AI plays a helpful role in helping me weed out the garbage for the subset of ideas that I can test empirically -- and sometimes it does give me a new perspective, but with significantly more noise than my colleagues, who would take me right to the point that would be useful for me to see.

I've never felt like I needed a second brain ... because if I had such a thing, I think I would be keeping the 99% garbage around -- instead I just let biology GC it.

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altairprimetoday at 6:07 PM

Ironically, this is why one of the best ways to manage upwards is to prompt managers into coming up with your idea as if it were their own: they’re dramatically more likely to execute and deliver on it. Of course, this also obviously leads to undue credit given for coming up the idea, which is certainly a core problem with AI as well, but it’s still charming to watch managerial psych being rediscovered by this new generation of managers.

helsinkiandrewtoday at 4:43 PM

There was a related study posted awhile ago:

> When people think AI did the creative work, task meaning and effort decline

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/when-people-think-ai-did-...

Dependancetoday at 5:33 PM

Could anyone enlighten me as to why to use Obsidian in one's daily life ? I have a dozen ideas popping a day and nothing comes close in terms of ease than a paper notebook for capturing and some apple notes equivalent for storage. Used to have a Notion but all the "Second Brain" movement seems...fishy to me ?

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gdullitoday at 4:38 PM

What am I even here for if not to have my own ideas?

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chessucationtoday at 4:46 PM

i've been dabbling with various assistant models and instances and find that there's an interesting "idea" that pops up from their synthesis and relevancy analysis at a decent frequency. some kind of "inverse prompting" in which the machine has an angle, perspective, opportunity (based on the context it's working with/in) and the human turns those seedlings into something useful... or else decides its weed to be discarded.

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rootsudotoday at 5:43 PM

For me it’s the opposite, AI has helped me do the final 20% that I could never do, making execution more painless and more successful.

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GPersontoday at 5:29 PM

I have separate directories for human only files and ai files. I’m not doing anything that matters but it works for me.

zazuketoday at 3:30 PM

While I use Claude a lot for my Omarchy plugins and Linux optimization/failure detection, I don’t use it for writing and note-taking, especially for coming up with unique ideas and driving them home by writing them through to the end.

It's so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI.

SomeonesAccounttoday at 5:16 PM

This is why I never use AI for ideas. Always my own ideas.

mohamedkoubaatoday at 5:29 PM

Brian, CTO complains that it's so hard for him to execute against the technical strategy communicated by that smart intern on the third day of his internship two years ago. Poor Brian.

empath75today at 4:20 PM

I think having AI keep it's _own_ notes in Obsidian is a good idea because it makes them convenient for you to read, but yeah you need to quarantine agent ideas from your own ideas because otherwise you get bad cito-genesis problems. https://xkcd.com/978/

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