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reducesufferingtoday at 2:46 AM4 repliesview on HN

> I can only assume the reasonable people at openai and anthropic were all pushed out long ago

Typical uninformed take on the side of "doomers are crazy".

Both CEO's of OpenAI, Sam Altman and Dario Amodei, and many in their leadership, believe AGI has a very real probability of causing humanity's extinction. Both companies were founded upon this belief, it is at the core of the company. Only later were mercenaries hired chasing $1m compensation packages.


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majormajortoday at 4:46 AM

If you're a doomer, wouldn't the "let's try to get there so fast" actions of the companies suggest that, in fact, there are no reasonable people in positions of influence there?

By your own description neither Altman or Amodei are reasonable if their thought process goes: "this is an existential risk, give me hundreds of millions of dollars so I can accelerate it."

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zdragnartoday at 3:21 AM

I'm not saying they are crazy, I'm saying their predictions have a record of not being accurate, and thus give them no weight compared to others'.

In any case, if Altman really does believe it is an existential threat, he must be a misanthrope as he now opposes heavy handed government regulation, unlike in 2015 when he was the only game in town. It's almost like he doesn't actually believe it and just wanted regulator capture.

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nozzlegeartoday at 2:59 AM

Why is the take uninformed? You didn't address anything about the part you quoted, wherein reasonable people were allegedly pushed out long ago.

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mooglytoday at 2:59 AM

If they truly, truly believed that, would they be speeding towards building it? If yes, that would make them truly insane, right? Not as in a quaint "off their rocker" but more "non compos mentis".

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