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txrx0000today at 2:39 AM5 repliesview on HN

It pays off instantly, because OpenAI/Anthropic can no longer see what I'm doing and that's worth a lot of money to me. If I am offloading some of my thought processes to a machine, I want to own that machine. And if I finetune the model, I can gain access to parts of thought space that are cordoned off by OpenAI/Anthropic/Alibaba/whomever due to their "alignment" efforts (i.e. alignment to the AI company rather than me). Otherwise, it's like if someone else owns a part of my mind and has a backdoor into my mind.


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no-name-heretoday at 2:46 AM

You can't run recent openAI/Anthropic models locally anyway, so wouldn't a better comparison be a different provider running Qwen or similar model? As then you can also compare against the exact model you'd have locally and any different data privacy of that particular provider?

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ChickeNEStoday at 3:01 AM

For me, I'm glad they train on my stuff if it improves the model. Hell, I've been using tons of muse-spark-1.3-contributor for this very reason (and because it's a decent model for a bargain basement price)

jrecyclebintoday at 2:54 AM

This was my thought as well. I have a local model monitoring my finances and personal wiki - things I wouldn't want Claude to touch - and the Qwen 3.5 9b handles it all just perfectly.

I also needed a new device anyway - and having this much system memory to run virtual machines has been amazing.

Am paying subscriptions as well tho lol.

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tyretoday at 2:53 AM

I'm curious what people are sending to Claude that is so secret. Claude knows about my interior decorating, questions about light bulbs, curiosity about what the Galactic Empire was even trying to do, unpacking SCOTUS decisions, shoe trees, Fed inflation history, etc.

What part of my brain is contained here? Sure, the conversations have back and forth (some have dozens of exchanges), but, like, that's not the secret to me. I don't think it can replicate me, and even if it could… okay?

Are you worried they're going to target ads? That the government will steal something? What?

Claude Code has information about my home server, but google or DDG would also have the broad strokes (torrents). I don't know. Maybe others are working on more sensitive things at home.

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throwaway894345today at 2:54 AM

I’m very sympathetic to this point of view but I also can’t remotely afford the hardware required to get in the ballpark of Fable.