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AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran

255 pointsby berkeleyjunklast Tuesday at 9:41 PM225 commentsview on HN

https://archive.is/Ay7RJ


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cmiles8yesterday at 10:15 PM

This interview with an AWS leader isn’t aging well, from CBS Sunday morning:

Pogue asked, "I don't mean to give anyone ideas, but let's say I figured out that one of these unmarked buildings was an AWS data center, and I blew it up. Are you saying that it's so backed up and redundant that you probably wouldn't notice?" Wood replied, "Yeah, you wouldn't notice. I mean, we might be a bit upset, but you wouldn't notice!"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cloud-computing-loudoun-county-...

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rishikeshsyesterday at 9:48 PM

I think this is due to the data residency requirements in UAE. I'm working with a client in the health space and the government requirements requires me to store data only in UAE! Tried with AWS but they were not allowing any new instances and I had to go with Azure.

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weinzierltoday at 12:43 AM

   me (Middle East)
   ├── me-south-1 (Bahrain)                                DOWN since 2026-04
   │   ├── mes1-az1                            me (Middle East)
├── me-south-1 (Bahrain) DOWN since 2026-04 │ ├── mes1-az1 DOWN │ │ └── mes1-mct1-az1 (Oman, Muscat) │ ├── mes1-az2 DOWN since 2026-03-01 │ └── mes1-az3 DOWN ├── me-central-1 (United Arab Emirates) │ ├── mec1-az1 │ ├── mec1-az2 DOWN since 2026-03-01 │ └── mec1-az3 DOWN since 2026-03-01 └── il-central-1 (Israel, Tel Aviv) ├── ilc1-az1 ├── ilc1-az2 └── ilc1-az3 DOWN │ │ └── mes1-mct1-az1 (Oman, Muscat) │ ├── mes1-az2 DOWN since 2026-03-01 │ └── mes1-az3 DOWN ├── me-central-1 (United Arab Emirates) │ ├── mec1-az1 │ ├── mec1-az2 DOWN since 2026-03-01 │ └── mec1-az3 DOWN since 2026-03-01 └── il-central-1 (Israel, Tel Aviv) ├── ilc1-az1 ├── ilc1-az2 └── ilc1-az3
gilbetrontoday at 1:25 AM

11.3 Force Majeure. Except for payment obligations, neither party nor any of their affiliates will be liable for any delay or failure to perform any obligation under this Agreement where the delay or failure results from any cause beyond its reasonable control, including acts of God, labor disputes or other industrial disturbances, electrical or power outages, utilities or other telecommunications failures, earthquake, storms or other elements of nature, blockages, embargoes, riots, acts or orders of government, acts of terrorism, or war.

curuinorlast Tuesday at 10:50 PM

They guaranteed 11 9's durability, didn't they?

e: Yep

https://aws.amazon.com/s3/storage-classes/

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Art9681yesterday at 9:31 PM

No disaster recovery plan? No offsite backups? Someone failed to applied the most basic principles that have existed for decades.

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weinzierltoday at 12:44 AM

The data center layout should look something like this:

    me (Middle East)
    ├── me-south-1 (Bahrain) DOWN since 2026-04
    │   ├── mes1-az1 DOWN
    │   │   └── mes1-mct1-az1 (Oman, Muscat) ???
    │   ├── mes1-az2 DOWN since 2026-03-01
    │   └── mes1-az3 DOWN
    ├── me-central-1 (United Arab Emirates)
    │   ├── mec1-az1
    │   ├── mec1-az2 DOWN since 2026-03-01
    │   └── mec1-az3         DOWN since 2026-03-01
    └── il-central-1 (Israel, Tel Aviv)
        ├── ilc1-az1
        ├── ilc1-az2
        └── ilc1-az3
Not sure about the Muscat local zone, whole me-south-1 region has been reported down despite Muscat still being operational.

If someone had told me a year ago that a whole AWS region could go down I'd called them crazy, but now me is close to exactly that happening.

See also previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49033240

rbanffyyesterday at 9:33 PM

Well… they have a good excuse.

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chasd00yesterday at 10:40 PM

They say "some" data, i wonder what percentage that really is. I haven't seen pictures but I find it hard to imagine all of me-south-1 was completely leveled to the point where's there's just nothing left. On the other hand, if you have 100 rows of racks and then randomly take out a contiguous 10% across both rows and columns it may be functionally equivalent to taking out everything.

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markivelast Tuesday at 10:41 PM

Does this mean that even with 3 availability zones for Amazon S3 storage, that some data is lost?

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skybrianyesterday at 10:06 PM

I wonder if they'll start adding an underground bunker to new data centers so you can put an S3 replica there?

Eastmilltoday at 1:28 AM

Seems like their multi-AZ redundancy didn't account for missile strikes. Good reminder to always have your own backups.

brightballtoday at 1:29 AM

There are many regulations over there which prevent data from leaving the country.

Sometimes those rules can have serious consequences.

vanjajaja1today at 12:24 AM

"..even if something happens only once in a billion requests, that means it happens multiple times per day within S3."

but one in a trillion...

Kvarnektoday at 12:15 AM

Guess those multi-AZ promises have an asterisk when actual missiles are involved. Makes you double-check your own off-site backups.

simonciontoday at 1:47 AM

Since roughly zero of the articles I've seen link back to the source of their quotes, here it is: <https://status.aws.amazon.com/#multipleservices-me-south-1_1...>

ernsheongyesterday at 11:01 PM

Hey but that's exactly as per design. It is the customer's responsibility to store stuff elsewhere as DR backup, not AWS.

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spbaartoday at 1:18 AM

us-east-1 is finally looking pretty stable for once.

michael-beyyesterday at 9:33 PM

What a nightmare scenario to tabletop. How do you even begin to recover from something like this?

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carefree-bobyesterday at 9:18 PM

This is the flipside of data residency requirements that countries are now starting to require. If the EU wants to keep data in the EU, then great, but when the war comes and energy and infrastructure are hit, people would have wished for backups in North America, Asia, and the middle east.

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rvzyesterday at 9:46 PM

Backup both locally and everywhere no matter what.

burnt-resistoryesterday at 9:47 PM

50%+ of companies that lose all of their data go out of business in 6 months.

DR/BCP costs are readily justified by doing a Business Impact Analysis (BIA).. budget up to some fraction of risk cost * risk probability.

And a friendly reminder that replication isn't a tested data backup.

phendrenad2yesterday at 10:46 PM

Uh.

Uh-oh.

It's not clear from their messaging if multiple availability zones were severely damaged, or if the damage to one availability zone was simply more than they planned for. If it's the latter, that's a big uh-oh.

The wording certainly seems very careful:

"The damage to our infrastructure spanned multiple availability zones and exceeded what our regional and multi-AZ services are designed to withstand"

chewsyesterday at 6:29 AM

I'm sorry but your data is in another castle.

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SmirkingRevengeyesterday at 10:02 PM

It was always a bad bet for billionaires like Bezos to become Trump enablers. You weren't buying a seat at the table, or the privilege of being left alone, you were just signing yourself up to be force-fed shit sandwiches over and over (And the shit-to-bread ratio gets worse as time goes on)

You should have used your considerable resources to fight. If only billionaires would oppose aspiring tyrants with the same zeal with which they oppose even minor tax increases.

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wewewedxfgdfyesterday at 9:28 PM

"Use the cloud" they say.

"It's the only way." the true believers say.

"You can't run your own computer systems.", they say.

"Trust us.", they say.

“No one ever got fired for buying IBM.”

Wildberries has nothing to do with AWS.

"Massive centralisation of computing can never go wrong."

"We don't need to host our own systems, it's all safe in one of 20 global data centers."

etc etc

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