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at1as • today at 4:53 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

The broadly open internet is probably not long for this world. If you scrape using fake accounts, that clearly violates ToS you agree to. Whereas for public pages it's less clear how courts will rule.

With companies increasingly viewing their defenseability and value as their data, their online presence will become more gated, and curated through their managed experiences. Social media, news, reddit, etc are already like this, and it's not inconceivable that companies like Amazon, Ebay (who are fighting their own scraping battles) move the direction of sign in to visit more than a few pages.

This would mean that we'll all be forced to use accounts to see anything substantial within a site. And it'll be harder to view things across sites.

I know that this particular case is about scraping personal data, but I think it's a catalyst for many upcoming lawsuits that will broadly shift the internet in an undesirable direction


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imzadi • today at 5:05 PM

You already have to sign in to view more than the featured reviews on an Amazon product page.

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rightnutwingjob • today at 5:04 PM

If the ToS don’t allow scraping, there’s always the ”cyberhack” method of exfiltrating whatever data you want.

Make it look like it came from Enemy State of the week.

Everyone can maintain plausible deniability, and no one needs to get punished.