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unglaublich • today at 5:03 AM • 8 replies • view on HN

> Lando Norris calling the electronic glitches "horrible" and further proof that F1 should move away from hybrids.

But the human fireballs, deaths and suffering of gasoline-related accidents are no proof that F1 should move away from gas-power?


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GJim • today at 9:32 AM

If you are that worrid about safety, don't ever watch the Isle of Man TT bike racing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31RZ5wU-Fg0

There are typically at least two deaths every year. The last time there were no fatailties was in 1982.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Isle_of_Man_TT_Mountai...

Iknowsheknows • today at 5:20 AM

Those are two seperate issues. Safety issues are solved by making the cars/driver gear safer.

alerighi • today at 9:49 AM

This F1 is shit, I've lost interest in it. When the race winner is not determined by the pilot skills, or the team, or the car itself, but by some software, battery power, excessive ruling, lawyers, etc. it's to me not at an interest to be seen.

To me F1 shall go back, remove all the crappy rules made in the last 20 years, return to pure gasoline V10 engines, no turbo, no hybrid, minimal electronic, no closed park, no limit in consumption of fuel, tires, etc, return to refueling during the race, and let the better pilot with the best car and the best team win.

These F1 is too sophisticated, at this point to me makes very little sense even racing, just race the car in a simulator at this point, everything is decided by the electronics and algorithms anyway, seeing talented pilots like Max Verstappen or Lewis Hamilton struggle to race because the electronics of the car doesn't let them show their potential, because they have to "save battery" or "save fuel" or "save tires", doesn't make a good show to me.

bergen • today at 5:24 AM

> "It's just horrible. I don't know, it just proves that we shouldn't have any of that stuff, the electronic side," Norris said

It seems he doesn't want ANY electronics, which is frankly ridiculous. The steering wheel has looked like the one from a flighter jet for decades now. There is electronics in everything, even the helmets.

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Jataman606 • today at 8:35 AM

Your comment clearly indicates that you have absolutely no idea what you are trying to talk about. Norris's comment is perfectly clear for anyone who has any inkling of what is going on currently in F1. Why even bother making such a comment when it is a complete waste of bytes?

k4rli • today at 7:40 AM

Last fuel related death was in 1986. The incident in 2020 with Grosjean's fireball was a 67g impact. If the car were to only have one big EV battery, which it almost is in current regulations, then in such a crash would very likely get punctured and be even riskier fire. So to answer the question, no.

At end of the day, it is a motorsport and it will always have its risks.

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ilogik • today at 7:00 AM

In the first race of the season, his team-mate was taken out before the race started because his car gave him more power than he was expecting all of a sudden. Similar things have happened multiple times this year.

ActorNightly • today at 8:24 AM

The issue is of why deaths happen isn't due to gas, its because F1 is simulatenously "build the fastest car that can hold incredible speeds in corners", and "we are going to put restrictions on when you can use technology to make racing fair"

Look at Moto GP. The crash speeds are much slower, because they happen during cornering, and because bikes don't have that much aero downforce even with all the power ranger wings on them now, the riders have to brake a lot more.

Instead of trying to push hybrid tech, which will never be that good for racing, Id like to see F1 focus more on actual ICE engine refinement, because ICE isn't going anywhere even in the age of evs. Something like no front/rear wings, no pitstops, ICE only, standard ECU for power delivery, no ABS, but you can run AWD with electronic suspension and torque vector as much as you want.