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Tiberium • today at 2:35 PM • 9 replies • view on HN

It's baffling that this requires auth. OpenAI's own tool (https://openai.com/research/verify/) doesn't require auth.

Even Google themselves previously offered a no-auth way (just very niche): if you uploaded an image to Google Image search, and went to "About this image", it would show if the image was Google AI-generated. Now it doesn't.


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possibilistic • today at 2:56 PM

These are "spy"marks, not watermarks:

https://brand.io/article/spymarks/

We need to inform everyone that this technology can encode database identifiers and enough entropy to uniquely identify you as an author (or downloader).

This extends to other forms of media as well.

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98codes • today at 3:49 PM

It's worth nothing that this IS Google.

Given that it's an ad company, they want something to connect what you're doing to the rest of their data, and they couldn't possibly keep the old image search results there if they want people to use this.

Retr0id • today at 3:02 PM

It's presumably so they can rate-limit people who are trying to reverse-engineer or otherwise strip it (e.g. iteratively tweaking until it stops getting detected)

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brokensegue • today at 2:45 PM

Yeah I've been wanting to run a ton of Wikipedia images through the detector to see if fakes snuck in. Doesn't seem to be a practical way to do this. Even Open AIs tool has a low rate limit

wodenokoto • today at 2:55 PM

The EULA you have to accept hints that they are afraid you are going to abuse it to remove synthID - e.g, set up and edit and check loop

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apefulsin • today at 2:44 PM

Any access to a watermark detector can be used to remove the watermark. Presumably they want to be able to track who is doing that.

lelandfe • today at 2:36 PM

I've never seen it mentioned anywhere so I will just here complain that Google also removed the ability to paste images into Google Image search some years ago for no apparent reason. It worked great and I used it all the time.

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cubefox • today at 3:23 PM

OpenAI's tool is worse though, because it doesn't detect SynthID from non-OpenAI models. I just tried it with various images created by Imagen / Nano Banana.

MisterMunchkin • today at 3:25 PM

It's deliberate so that you can't find a way to bypass it.