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dabinat • today at 5:40 PM • 3 replies • view on HN

I think one of the biggest ways social media can harm democracy is that it’s trivially easy for a foreign actor (or anyone with malicious intent) to run an influence campaign now. How would they have done it before social media - printed out millions of leaflets? That would be very obvious, expensive, logistically difficult, and hard to scale.

It was very telling when X started showing people’s locations and a lot of the political accounts targeting the US were based in other countries.


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wtfHN26 • today at 6:08 PM

> It was very telling when X started showing people’s locations and a lot of the political accounts targeting the US were based in other countries.

One thing to consider is if there were no social media would these attempts to subvert democracy stop ?

There are always elements in news media, academia, industry etc who are pawns in hands of foreign powers with ulterior motives.

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robocat • today at 6:16 PM

> printed out millions of leaflets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_New_Zealand_election_fund...

Perhaps funded by USA fundies. A million dollars is a lot of influence in New Zealand elections.

pigpop • today at 7:58 PM

They directly funded people and organizations that are sympathetic to them.

They still do and so does the USA.

"bot" accounts are really only one piece of an influence campaign. They're there to make it seem like a large number of people agree with a talking point and to provide more ways that someone might get caught up in that influence network. A lot of "bots" are real people that have just been entrained by an influence campaign, useful idiots. You still need other individuals that specialize in creating or rewording the talking points to appeal to various audiences and still others to be the "trusted face" or parasocial relationship i.e. influencer.

The target in an influence campaign is not really the individual voter. It's much more effective to convert someone who already has mass appeal and influence. You often can't get to these people directly but you can reach them by making your cause seem popular/justified/righteous/countercultural/cool/sophisticated or whatever else appeals to the people you're trying to influence.