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Apple HomeView

109 points • by etothet • today at 1:02 PM • 118 comments • view on HN

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postalcoder • today at 1:44 PM

The overwhelming cynicism about this product I'm seeing here on HN tells me it's going to be a hit.

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yesimahuman • today at 1:58 PM

Hmm. I'm currently looking to update my Alexa echo dot combined with a wall-mounted iPad connected to my Home Assistant instance. I don't really know if this thing is what I should get instead of waiting for a Home Pod update and using that for voice with my existing iPad display. Maybe it could be useful as a condensed UI for some important Home Assistant entities I link into HomeKit? Can it be powered through PoE which I already have set up for the iPad? (edit: yes, looks like a PoE adapter is coming for $130) For $299 I might just pick it up for fun and see how it works for me.

Brendinooo • today at 1:38 PM

Props to Apple for making this. Always cool to see them try stuff. That said:

I watched their video demo with the family getting ready in the morning: there are some interesting ideas here but imo if this doesn't get reasonably full access to the App Store then it's a no-go for me. Like: FaceTime while cooking, sure, but those calls tend to happen on Messenger and Snapchat for us. Music in the kitchen, sure, but I run Plexamp. My kids are always stealing my iPad to run the Toybox 3D printer; this would be a great thing for them to use.

And so on.

My house has a bunch of spots on the wall where an old intercom system used to live: it'd obviously be a budget buster to buy a bunch of these to fit in those slots but even if you did, you'd need Apple to provide an intercom solution (a la the Watch's Walkie-Talkie?) or you're...out of luck.

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xd1936 • today at 1:45 PM

Through the incredible power of Siri AI™, you can now get a "I didn't understand that. Do you want to search the web for 'turn on the kitchen lights'?" response faster than ever before.

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Darwins_Toffees • today at 1:14 PM

It's not even a very functional size. Honestly makes me go why not just get a phone charging mount by my HomePod in the kitchen and save $300. Plus add on a mount and charger and it's $400. No thanks

vessenes • today at 1:18 PM

This is a nice design, and a very aggressive price. I like the design enough I'm interpreting that price as a sign Apple's serious about getting these into a lot of homes.. I wasn't thinking I'd buy one of these, but I changed my mind looking at the pitch -- at this price it's sort of a 'hmm, I could imagine wanting one of those in X room'.

I'm curious if this is intended to act as a matter hub -- right now a lot of that load is shouldered by an Apple TV 4K if you've got one. Anyway, apple's home automation story has been terrible for ten years, but this device makes me think they will make another serious run in the next five.

santah • today at 1:13 PM

It's shocking to me it doesn't support apps from the AppStore nor any kind of (video) media streaming.

Otherwise looks like an ideal kitchen TV/Movie playback device.

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dylan-m • today at 1:16 PM

The thing on the stand is goofy, partly because it's like a large Apple Watch. Especially goofy when it's pictured with a hand, and it isn't actually all that big. But their wall mounted design looks interesting, kind of for the same reason? Aesthetically it immediately makes me think of a wall clock, which tells me exactly where it belongs. I kind of feel like they should lead with that one. (Although maybe they should be honest that it obviously needs a power cable).

throw03172019 • today at 1:08 PM

I don’t really understand why we need this. Why another screen? iPhones, iPads, Mac’s and now another one for the kitchen.

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timpera • today at 1:07 PM

> Apple HomeView is not available for sale in the European Union, as Siri AI is currently unavailable in iOS in the EU. Apple is working constructively with the EU in an attempt to find a path forward.

It's interesting that they consider that this product would be unusable without Siri AI. I've used a Google Nest Hub for years, and I don't think it needs AI to be useful?

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pelagicAustral • today at 1:17 PM

The only viable use-case I see for it is having one in every room of the house playing the Godfather part 1, 24/7 in a loop.

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cogogo • today at 1:19 PM

I kind of like the idea of this for a home phone replacement and a good way for our family to communicate as we get more comfortable with leaving the kids home alone. But it won’t be able to call 911 and I do not trust it.

Makes me even happier I just installed a red wall phone with an armored cable and signed up for ooma’s cheap plan. 911 access and we have no need for whitelisting. Always have outgoing and default to ringer off. Can turn it on (satisfying slider) if we are leaving the kids for a bit and they can have fun hanging up on any spam while we are out.

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worldsavior • today at 1:27 PM

They just ran out of ideas, or just looking for more ways to squeeze some money. What's wrong with an iPad??

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gyomu • today at 1:44 PM

So weird. A brand new product category, and it gets dropped with the HomePod Mini/Apple TV, aka Apple’s most neglected products (besides the zombified Vision Pro). Apple has a history of being so proud of their new form factors, of wanting to show them with pomp and highlighting every little detail. Not so much here.

Also completely locked out for 3rd party developers, needs your iPhone to do anything while offering very little reason to do things on it rather than on your phone… (the teenage girl texting on it rather than her phone in the intro video is totally unbelievable)

Hmm, really hard to figure out what they’re thinking on this besides “throw it on the wall and see if it sticks”, aka the HomePod & Apple TV strategy, which is not reassuring. I bought a couple HomePods early on, excited by the potential given how reliable my AirPods were, and they’ve been one of my most hated tech purchases. Super buggy, completely lagging behind in terms of basic features, and of course no fallback to use them as “dumb” wired speakers.

pjbk • today at 1:13 PM

For a moment I thought I clicked on a parody web site.

uptown • today at 1:49 PM

The Skylight market is ripe for an Apple replacement. This looks like it falls way short.

clickety_clack • today at 1:16 PM

I got an iPad mini a few years ago and tried to use it like this. There’s almost no actual utility to it that “Siri set a timer for 12 minutes” or “Siri what’s the weather like” doesn’t already do on my phone.

sdcfgy • today at 1:19 PM

So is this 1984 (surveillance) or Brave New World (distraction)?

albert_e • today at 1:12 PM

Has anyone successfully jailbroken Amazon Echo and Google Home devices to make them Claude/ChatGPT assistants without any telemetry/dependency on Amazon/Google respectively.

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nevi-me • today at 1:29 PM

Square screen is a no from me. I'm overall tired of the Google ecosystem, and I want to replace our Nest Hubs with something else. I was hoping Apple would come out with something large enough for wife and the kids to use when we're not in the tv room. :(

bertili • today at 1:08 PM

Not clear if it can run iOS apps at all?

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juiceland • today at 1:14 PM

This device feels so late to the game that I’m not sure why Apple is bothering. Amazon entered this market segment 9 and a half years ago.

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summermusic • today at 1:23 PM

Why not just make an iPad dock to use the device you already have? The Pixel Tablet with its magnetic docking station was the perfect form factor for this. Home control tablet when docked, and simply lift it off the dock and take it around the house for whatever.

JaxonZhou • today at 1:18 PM

Although I really like past Apple products, the appearance of this one strikes me as a bit odd.

noja • today at 1:17 PM

Note the positioning for this is different: imperfect family, non-pristine home, dirty clothes.

Aboutplants • today at 1:42 PM

Well this was not what I was expecting, and that is not a good thing

eugenekolo • today at 1:09 PM

No mention of the RAM size.

Thinking if the RAM is good, this is a great jailbreak target with an A18 chip for only $299.

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dhsysusbsjsi • today at 1:19 PM

Today I asked Siri a basic question hands free whilst driving and it said “I found these on the web”.

I’ve been with Apple since the first iPhone but I think I’m done. They have dropped the ball on AI. It’s late 2026 and my Opus 5.5 does all my coding and Siri still can’t find info and read back some basic info. Pathetic it’s like they’re not even trying any more.

esskay • today at 1:26 PM

what a weird product. I'm all in on the Apple ecosystem but this seems like an obvious miss. Presumably the low price point is because its internals are incredibly basic, i mean its just not got a lot to do really has it so doesnt need anything other than probably a bunch of old binned chips.

ElFitz • today at 1:26 PM

I fail to see why I should care.

But maybe that’s just me?

albert_e • today at 1:11 PM

First impressions -- i do not quite like the physical product's shape and look.

busymom0 • today at 1:37 PM

Looks like a huge Apple Watch to me.

nsxwolf • today at 1:36 PM

This is the return of the 1980s kitchen TV.

xd1936 • today at 1:16 PM

Some chonky bezel. Not hard to imagine how gen 2 will look.

small_model • today at 1:11 PM

Siri though, why not allow Claude, openai or Grok as the assistant.

joshstrange • today at 1:21 PM

Meh.

An incredibly locked down device from a manufacturer with terrible track record for this category of device. Their Homepod line has been completely neglected, even with the Mini 2 announcement today it's clear Apple's heart's not in it.

Couple that with the LG trash they are pushing (again, because Apple doesn't care) and it's clear Apple's HomeKit endeavors are still just as dead as they were yesterday. They ceded the home wifi space at the worst possible time and instead of trying to rectify any of that, they ignored that space for over a decade.

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shantara • today at 1:40 PM

“Certain Apple Intelligence features that rely on server-side models are subject to daily usage limits. Expanded access to such features will be available for a fee in the future”

baggy_trough • today at 1:40 PM

I wonder what 'Apps Available from iPhone' means on their tech specs page. For example, the Apple TV app.

speedgoose • today at 1:08 PM

> The privacy every home and everyone deserves.

Sure.

allarm • today at 1:09 PM

Can I run HomeAssistant in Kiosk mode on this thing? The only use case I can think of.

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blondie9x • today at 1:32 PM

Can they just iterate on the HomePod? I want less screen time. Not more.

embedding-shape • today at 1:12 PM

> Siri AI. A personal assistant that helps you find what you need and get more done.1

> Usage limits may apply.

What a great way to start out, to openly flag that people shouldn't rely on it, as it can be pulled away from you without notice. Feels very atypical of Apple, are they starting to get short on cash or what's going on?

lotsofpulp • today at 1:11 PM

iPhone 13 mini, ios 27.0.1, and Siri turned on the ceiling fan along with the lights when I asked Siri to turn on the bedroom lights. Don’t see any reason to believe Siri claims.

2OEH8eoCRo0 • today at 1:06 PM

More surveillance! You know this will also be an ad billboard.

aslkalska • today at 1:12 PM

wait what? why is Apple doing what google and amazon did 10 years ago ?!

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drcongo • today at 1:30 PM

If only the Home app wasn't complete shit.

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