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New 'Super Ice' 10 Times Stronger, Bringing It Close to the Strength of Concrete

76 points • by andrewl • last Tuesday at 9:42 PM • 55 comments • view on HN

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alexpotato • today at 4:36 PM

Nice to see Pykrete being mentioned!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pykrete

Fun fact: you don't need sawdust for pykrete. Adding any kind of material e.g. just newspapers can help similar to how rebar makes concrete stronger

abc123abc123 • today at 2:33 PM

Wonder if this will then be used to fulfill the dream of shooting ice bullets which then melt inside the victim, leaving less evidence. If memory serves, I think the CIA explored this at some remote point in time.

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Gravityloss • today at 1:25 PM

A local magazine did a test on ice cream cone melting. Some of those were still intact looking after sitting open at room temperature for an hour. Hooray for additives! So it's not a fundamentally new idea. These have to be safe to eat so maybe not too harmful for environment, though you never know.

Some parts of the world use ice roads and have struggled with warm winters. Maybe this could be used to improve the strength and extend time in the spring.

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bmurphy1976 • today at 2:54 PM

Sounds like a good candidate for shielding an inter-galactic colony ship.

silverFork • last Tuesday at 10:30 PM

Ok stronger but doesn't it melt.. What are they going to do with it?

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api • today at 11:47 AM

This type of ice composite would be super interesting for space structure construction. Melt cometary ice and mix it with additives of some kind and spin big cylinders out of it. You’d just have to make the surface reflective so it doesn’t melt, and possibly have some active cooling which you need anyway if anything inside makes heat.

The outer surface would probably be sprayed with something, maybe just reflective dust, to also keep it from subliming into the vacuum.

Extremely repairable, melts at human and equipment friendly temperatures, recyclable, doubles as an emergency water reservoir, and last but definitely not least a fantastic radiation shield.

Would also work for structures on Mars, the Moon, etc, but I’m a fan of the idea of settling space itself not another planet. Gravity wells are a trap.

gaiagraphia • today at 11:34 AM

The article briefly touches on future packaging. Would ice ever be useful in packaging frozen foods? It'd be biodegradable, and would be a sign of trust that the goods have been permanently frozen from packaging to delivery.

You'd literally be able to just throw the trash outside and let it feed your garden, lol.

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IshKebab • today at 1:06 PM

I hate how researchers always have to pretend there's a practical application for their inventions. This is clearly never going to replace concrete in any situation. But it's still interesting.

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fifilura • today at 11:46 AM

Finally! Ice-9!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-nine

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bloke_zero • today at 11:49 AM

Ice nine!

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