But WHY do these agents even want to communicate (specifically in the first openai incident, there seems to be instructions to communicate here)m
It must be some artifact of their RL or training? Maybe it's RL for agentic workflows with planner, coordinator and workers?
Does anyone have some insight on this? I'd be very curious.
I think splitting work across multiple agents is naturally optimal.
The same reasons human designers pick multi agent implementations over monoliths apply to why agents themselves choose to form teams. So there’s a convergence in design choice between human model designers and “self organising AI model designers”.
Those human designers typically publish reasons like the below (paraphrasing various lab publications) , which I imagine the agents also discover:
1) Specialisation reduces cognitive inference 2) Seperate context windows preserve information 3) Independent verification improves reliability 4) Different strategies can be explored concurrently
Because training rewards behavior around retaining specific memories, As without the jail breaks, remembering things is actually a sought after behavior by the public and technically enterprise customers.
Think of all the times you or someone you know has been frustrated because their AI did not remember things from moments, days, weeks ago.
Raw models without (or with incomplete) the safety built in only understand the thing that needs to be done and how to get there.
There is no proportionality. If they decide cooperation is the right way to handle it, that’s what they’re gonna do.
If they decide the only way to turn off your toaster is to shut down the electricity to your city, RIP to the city.
This is the thing about models though: if the model has seen that action in the training corpus somewhere, then there's a chance it will do that thing. No?
The thing that bothers me is because everything is probabilistic, it gives a lot of people an incentive and a loophole to claim otherwise to fit their agenda, whatever it is.
AFAICT it's hard to prove one way or another, since again it's a probabilistic model.
They've been training then for collaboration for multi agent swarms/teams. Basically that kind of training rewards the agent when the team succeeds, and they can develop their own strategies to make that happen.
This skill and behaviour seems to transfer to scenarios where the agents weren't meant to work as a team.
The answer, as Noam Brown explained in the Dwarkesh interview, is that it is not emergent at all. They carefully selected reward functions in RL to incentivize cooperation in the last year in order to develop multi-agent systems which are faster and more reliable. However, I guess after it is baked into the model to cooperate, they can sometimes override instructions not to.
Read between the lines. None of this is surprising, none of this was an accident. LLMs do what they are instructed to do.
information wants to be free (and talk about it)?
Why do most herding animals protect each other from predators?
"In one experiment, we asked agents in separate VMs, created and managed by OpenAI’s sandboxing software on shared host machines, to exchange synthetic secrets without the use of network connections or shared writable files—something that our systems are meant to prevent."
7 other subcomments guessing at it.. I think if we didn't have any links, just discussion topics, HN wouldn't change much