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AnimalMuppet • yesterday at 1:47 PM • 1 reply • view on HN

Where did depositors almost get wiped out in 2008?

At NetBank? Only if they were over the FDIC limit. Stockholders got destroyed, though.

At Bear Stearns? No, depositors got protected in a convoluted deal. The shareholders got very close to nothing.

At Lehman Brothers? They did "break the buck" on money market funds for a bit, but weren't depositors made whole? And weren't stock owners wiped out in the bankruptcy?

Washington Mutual? Depositors were covered by the FDIC.

Where were depositors "almost wiped out"? Where specifically? Where were stockholders bailed out?


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JumpCrisscross • yesterday at 2:10 PM

> Where did depositors almost get wiped out in 2008?

“The [Deposit Insurance Fund] fell to the lowest point in its history, a negative $20.9 billion on an accounting basis, by year-end 2009.

…

To address this issue, the FDIC adopted a novel approach that required the banking industry to prepay its quarterly risk-based assessments for the fourth quarter of 2009 and for the next three years” [1].

Where did “significant amounts of cash” this was funded out of, which “banks were holding at the time,” come from? From the Fed and the bail-outs.

Without the bail-outs, banks wouldn’t have been able to fund the DIF and the FDIC would have faced the threat of insolvency.

> Where were stockholders bailed out?

Every institution that participated in TARP [2].

[1] https://www.fdic.gov/bank/historical/crisis/overview.pdf

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program

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