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edaemon • yesterday at 8:10 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

What information is hidden in Factorio? I can't think of any stat that isn't shown to the player in some way.


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pjerem • yesterday at 8:17 PM

He is not talking about stats.

When you start a new game in Factorio, if you never played it, you can’t know how much of each resource you’ll have to extract and neither how much of an item you’ll need to produce.

I know it’s easy to forgot after thousands hours of playtime, but the game starts with your character having to manually mine coal one by one.

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js8 • yesterday at 9:23 PM

Yet, that's not how new players (human or AI) approach the game. If you look at AlphaZero, probably state of the art in learning e.g. chess (more information about rules than Factorio has in game) from scratch, using only rules, it just plays a lot of games with itself. It doesn't "just think a lot" to come up with a perfect strategy; it experiments.