The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standard sudo

Further validation of our decision to move to Debian (as if the sluggish kernel updates and ramming of snaps down our throats weren’t enough). We migrated a few hundred lab machines this summer, and have around half of our servers and containers switched over. It has gone very smoothly.

Tools have to be allowed to evolve. Half the Linux ecosystem's problems are caused by sticking on some design that made sense in 1980.

At least the command is still called sudo or run0. Changing it to doas would have been a much more breaking change.

Alas, TFA blocks me with no workaround because I'm using Tor Browser so I can't read about the nature of the changes.

Sudoers glob expressions are a horrible footgun and I have little empathy for anyone complaining about their removal, especially when it’s trivial to fix with 3 extra (explicit) lines.

This is trivial to fix, at least for you.

  %corestaff ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mailq "", \
                           /usr/sbin/exim -bp, \
                           /usr/sbin/exim -bpa, \
                           /usr/sbin/exim -bpc, \
                           /usr/sbin/exim -bpr, \
                           /usr/sbin/exim -bpu

I start using Ubuntu because my company used it, and they remind me of Redhat and the other Linux vendors that got too big for their breeches. For my personal stuff, I went all in on Debian, FreeBSD and OpenBSD and will never run Ubuntu for personal stuff. I still can't forgive them for adopting systemd or the Wayland mess and I suspect they are going to break more stuff.

To op: ubuntu-minimal is a meta packaged that contains nothing itself. Safe to remove.

Strange that such issues haven’t been probed with ai. It’s good st finding regressions

If they were going to make breaking changes anyways, they should have just switched to the much simpler `doas`

It also doesn't work with ansible, as I recently found out...

Could someone remind me why people use Ubuntu?

I remember 20 years ago Ubuntu was marginally more user friendly. Is it the power of inertia? Ubuntu is just Debian actively made worse.

“Calculated to mislead” feels like an absurd overreaction to some docs not being formatted the way you feel is appropriate.

Theress a bug. That happens. Reporting it should take way less time than writing a sarcastic blog post ("I haven't filed a bug because we aren't Canonical's free debugging resource"). It's open source, so I think reporting bugs or submitting a PR is just good citizenship.

I prefer to have sudo uninstalled.

Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1172/

And this is why you don't just jump to rust-written alternatives because they're supposedly "safer": the "safer" implementation might actually be incompatible (intentionally or otherwise) from the original, which for something like sudo or coreutils is... Erm, kinda important. Maybe "rewrite it in Rust" was a bad idea after all...

Seems in Linux land, compatibly, even between distros, is going out the window. :(

Individuals can deal with that, but companies will have a hard time. You would think the Linux Foundation (LF) would chime in with all these differences. But they seem more concerned with AI than Linux these days.

If it was up to me, I would standardize on OpenBSD's doas, but me doing that would make for more incompatibilities.

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