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> Anyone who really thinks about this topic will start questioning why some company located on an island on the other side of the world

Why does the location of the company matter? They have branches in america and Europe even if it does somehow matter.

> should be dictating what I do or don't do with a cartridge or disc I paid for with my own money and which is in my possession

You can't ignore the entire idea of intellectual property just because you have a physical disc or cartridge in your possession. There are arguments to be made against IP but this is just lazy.


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necovek10/01/2024

"Intellectual property" is a meaningless term: GP is specifically referring to rules dictated by copyright laws, which generally allow one to do whatever they please with their "copy" for the most part (as long as they don't hurt the copyright holder's business through a couple of well defined "protections").

Copyright laws were established when it became cheap to "copy" creative works, so creativity would continue to be stimulated by guaranteeing rewards for a set time (idea was not to guarantee getting filthy rich, just to make sure creation happens by keeping the authors fairly compensated).

Digital "sales" are attempts to trick customers into thinking they are buying a copy when they are only getting a license, but this is unrelated to Nintendo killing emulators with an army of lawyers.

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EMIRELADERO10/01/2024

> You can't ignore the entire idea of intellectual property just because you have a physical disc or cartridge in your possession. There are arguments to be made against IP but this is just lazy.

But IP law says nothing about interaction with already-existing copies. This just isn't about copyright at all.

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ysofunny10/01/2024

IP is an obsolete idea of a bygone century

it arose from a legitimate answer to material scarcity, but it's nonesense in the digital space

people who advocate for IP and DRM and all such thing are in the end advocating for scarcity.

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dclowd990110/07/2024

If it was really about IP, they wouldn’t be going after emulators, they’d be going after rom distributors. It’s not like there’s some secret special industry secret aspect to their 8 year old hardware.

There’s IP protections and then there’s whatever this is.

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ls61210/02/2024

Back before the computer era it was the case that once you bought a product the IP rights to it were extinguished and you could do whatever you wanted with it except distribute copies. The end of that combined with ubiquitous internet and decent TPMs that aren’t riddled with vulnerabilities effectively heralds the end of private property, or at least private property that involves electricity in its function.

pdntspa10/07/2024

> You can't ignore the entire idea of intellectual property

Yes you can, if you are someplace out of reach of the law.

joquarky10/02/2024

IP is unnatural. No other arguments needed

altruios10/01/2024

I can run legally an mp3 through a calculator. No one can dictate otherwise - it's my machine, and purchased media to do with as I (privately) please. This does not interfere with copyright. To legislate otherwise would be insane - as that would effectively legislate your ability to calculate.

This argument extends to any purchased media, to any program.

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ApolloFortyNine10/01/2024

Emulating consoles that are no longer sold makes some sense.

Emulating a console that already exists just feels wrong. Even if technically in the right.

And it's hard to ignore, even when the emulator is in the right, 100% legal, 99.99% of people will simply be pirating their roms.

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