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patmcc10/11/20248 repliesview on HN

>>>Studies show it just doesn't work.

It's not that "eat less and exercise more" doesn't work, it's that nobody does it, because it's really, really hard.

Calories in/Calories out is both completely true and completely useless for actual humans.

edit: that's unfair, mostly useless


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blargey10/11/2024

People chanting “If everyone just did X, Y wouldn’t be a problem!” without seriously addressing why everyone doesn’t just do X already, or making a serious proposal for how everyone is going to just do X from now on.

A phenomenon not limited to dieting.

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mrweasel10/11/2024

Precisely, the point of Ozempic (or rather Wegovy, Ozempic is for type-1 diabetes) is that it reduces your appetite, making it easier to eat less.

One of the studies done with Wegovy showed that people lost 15% of their body mass in a year, but they also eat 500 Calories less and exercised for 2.5 hours a week.

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stevenAthompson10/11/2024

Right. It works, it isn't sustainable because it doesn't just take effort it takes effort multiplied by time (effort x time = permanent weight loss).

Obviously, even a small amount of effort becomes impossible when you multiply it by "forever".

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borroka10/11/2024

Given that a few decades ago obesity and overweight rates were nowhere near what they are today, this shows that a large part of the population is weak, fragile, and not very interested in their well-being.

I want to emphasize that a few decades ago, people were much thinner in the Western world and did not hate their lives because they could not eat a triple cheeseburger, go hungry constantly, or feel physically deprived. Those were my parents and my grandparents, I know them.

But if you show them hyper-caloric food that makes them feel like crap, they can't say no. It's disappointing. And the same can be said for addiction to social media, horrible TV series, and constant music everywhere.

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logicchains10/11/2024

>It's not that "eat less and exercise more" doesn't work, it's that nobody does it

There are plenty of examples of people who've managed to lose weight through diet and exercise, it's not "nobody". Sure it's a small % success rate, but that's because it's not easy. Just like squatting or deadlifting 300 lbs, it's not easy to get there, but the vast majority of humans could if they decided to put the time and effort into it.

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petesergeant10/11/2024

The best way to stop smoking is to never have another cigarette!

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