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aziaziazi01/21/202545 repliesview on HN

For those that "track and weight everything" (how ?) do you manage ?:

- sauces you make yourself? I often mix some different oils, mustard, seeds, miso, bit of leamon juice and spices… but weighting and logging everything will take 3x the time to do the sauce itself

- different cooking time in one receive : oignons going first, tomato sauce in the middle and parsley at the end (but still cook a bit with residual heat)

- Leftovers nutrients decrease with time

- counting how much you take of a meal shared with others, especially when you serves yourself multiple time

- different species/cultivation methods like the rustic small and dense cucumber from your neighbor and the spongy one from the supermarket in January

I have the feeling that might have been easy at some point in my life when I lived alone and mostly eat packaged food and raw vegetable that looked like clones but not when I share my meal, cook a lot more raw un-barcoded aliments and gained confidence to dose "by the eye" without recipes.


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iwanttocomment01/21/2025

As someone who has successfully tracked calories in the past with great effort, the trick is to be strict about measuring calorie-dense foods, but to be liberal with "lighter" foods where the calories are functionally de minimis. An ounce of olive oil has 250 kilocalories. An ounce of lean protein generally has 30-50 kilocalories. An ounce of green vegetables contains virtually no kilocalories.

As such, things like oils and miso can be heavily caloric, and need to be measured strictly. This is also true of most proteins and carbs.

Seeds and tomato sauce can have some caloric density, and should also be measured, but it is less of a priority.

Mustard, lemon juice, most spices (that don't contain sugar), onions, cucumbers (regardless of density) and parsley do not have any substantial caloric density and can be considered "free" unless used in great quantities. Nobody ever gained weight from mustard, lemons, onions, cucumbers and parsley.

As already mentioned, micronutrients like vitamins are not functionally possible to be measured in a home kitchen. If you're concerned about any decrease in micronutrients, simply use vitamin and mineral supplements. Macros like proteins, carbs and fats, on the other hand, can generally be measured using typical cups, spoons and scales, even with leftovers.

When making a meal shared with others if you are looking to strictly track calories, it is easier to break things into macronutrients and mix them on individual plates or bowls rather than cook as a total pot. It's much easier to measure a protein (say, 4oz chicken), a carb (say, a potato), a sauce and a fat individually portioned on a plate than an arbitrary stew. (As above, low-calorie vegetables likely do not need to be measured separately unless there are added macronutrients.)

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beezlebroxxxxxx01/21/2025

Counting works for people because it quantifies their food intake. For many people, that's an effective way to overcome a learned idea that portions should be huge, or that feeling hungry has to be addressed immediately, or that feeling "full" has to be constant. It's not perfect, and I don't recommend it to people with an ED history; however, after about a month or 2 of doing it, it can really change how you look at your meals, and snacking in particular. I don't obsess over it.

> - sauces you make yourself?

I don't count them. I keep my sauces simple and use them sparingly. I'm not trying to get down to sub-10% bf.

> - different cooking time in one receive : oignons going first, tomato sauce in the middle and parsley at the end (but still cook a bit with residual heat)

I count them raw, or if my tracker has them, count them as cooked. I don't care about them being super accurate.

> - Leftovers nutrients decrease with time

I don't care. The calorie counts are basically just estimates anyway. It's less a science than a mental game to control your ballpark calories in.

> - counting how much you take of a meal shared with others, especially when you serves yourself multiple time

If I'm making the meal, I count for the whole meal, then estimate for the share. See above for rationale (I don't care that much.) If my friend has cooked for me, I don't care at all, and just try to eat a "reasonable" portion.

> - different species/cultivation methods like the rustic small and dense cucumber from your neighbor and the spongy one from the supermarket in January

The differences are probably not going to matter all that much. By weight, a cucumber is a cucumber is a cucumber; I'm not trying to be perfect, just get a general sense of calories.

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tzs01/21/2025

This won't be useful for you because you share food with others, but for people who do not share food and are interested in long term tracking rather than short term (e.g., they want to take off some weight at a healthy rate and keep it off, as opposed to people who just want to lose a few pounds rapidly for their class reunion and will make no effort after that to keep it off) there is a simple trick that can make it a lot easier.

That trick is to focus on months instead of days. Then count your calories when you buy the food instead of when you eat it. For example lets say you buy a loaf of bread. It is 100 calories per slice and there are 17 slices. Add 1700 to your calorie count for the month.

At the end of the month you can approximate your average daily calories as the amount of calories you bought that month divided by the number of days.

Some things you buy in a month might last into the next month. That will introduce some variation but over longer periods it should cancel out. If you want you can smooth that out a bit by logically splitting those items when they have a lot of calories.

For example consider jar of mayonnaise that might last a few months and is 8000 calories. Instead of counting all 8000 in the month you buy it you can count it as 2000 that month and 2000 more each of the next 3 months.

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ebiester01/21/2025

I am very diligent, and the truth is that it is hard and it changes how you eat to be more countable. On a cut, it matters more. On maintenance, it matters less.

But most of it is a guessing game and making an assumption that it will all even out later. Ignore spices - you can assume 25 calories a day and it’ll still be too much.

Be diligent about oils. 9 calories a gram bites you quickly.

But ultimately, if you miss 100 calories a day, and are in a 500 calorie deficit recorded, you are still going to lose .8 pounds a week. And if that is consistent, adjust your portions and be fine with how you record.

And that’s the key - we know nutrition is variable. You won’t get it perfect. You just have to adjust for the imperfections.

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wnorris51001/21/2025

Depends what your goal is. My suggestion is if your goal is weight loss, don't think about calorie tracking at all.

Count your servings of whole vegetables/fruit. Try to MAXIMIZE these. Yes, maximize in order to lose weight.

It's far easier to track just this small subset of food. If you are maximizing these items, you'll naturally start feeling full and eat less sweets. Try to do this slowly over time, changing your diet dramatically overnight will cause you to hate the process and give up.

Change your diet less than 10% per week, keep eating all of your favorite guilty pleasure foods, just incorporate more healthy foods you enjoy as well, ideally before you eat the less healthy items to give yourself time to start feeling full from them. Slowly find more dishes heavy in vegetables that you like. Try to eat them more often. If you're cooking for yourself or serving yourself, try to increase the ratio of vegetable to other items.

Getting pizza? Maybe do a side salad first or a get a veggie pizza. Don't try to cut the pizza entirely until you're further along in your journey.

Don't stress about it. If you're consistently finding ways to make small changes like this you'll start heading in the right direction over the long haul and your pallet will adapt to enjoy the foods you're not used to slowly.

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MegaDeKay01/21/2025

I use Cronometer (www.cronometer.com) and a scale. It lets you create recipes with the weight of each item and the weight of the final result. I then weigh the portion I have with a meal. Why do I do this in the first place? I'm one of those people that eats too little vs too much, especially in the summers when I'm outside all day burning tons of energy: tracking calories helps me keep weight on. I have to eat so much food to maintain my target weight that it gets pretty uncomfortable some days. Yay for muffins and cookies.

Don't worry about how leftover nutrients decrease over time: you'll get enough nutrients in a well balanced diet without having to worry about the minutia. If you're really worried about it, pop a multivitamin for cheap insurance.

Also don't worry about the variation in calories between one type of cucumber / apple / whatever vs. another. Those variations aren't significant and they probably average out anyway. Realize too that the sources aren't exact in the first place: once source is likely to give a different caloric value for something like dried beans vs another.

If you're going to track, don't get too caught up worrying about if the absolute value of the calories you're recording is 100% accurate because even if they were, you can't track your energy expenditure 100% accurately. If the bathroom scale goes in the wrong direction for you, adjust your caloric intake to compensate. Look at trends over the week and over the month vs day to day variations and it won't take long to zero in on the right number for you.

yuliyp01/21/2025

For weighing things, I have a kitchen scale that lets me tare it with something on it. I find it easier to tare a container of an ingredient, then dose some of that ingredient out, then reweigh it to get the delta I put in. For things which have a dash of an ingredient I'll just guess. A few grams here and there won't really matter much.

For partitioning a meal: Sometimes I weigh my portion. Over time I've trained myself to estimate the weight of what I take such that my visual estimates are reasonable. Eventually my visual estimates have gotten better.

A lot of your other challenges are just not that important: If you're off by a few calories in either direction, it's not a big deal. It'll average out in the long run. If you're systematically off, you'll eventually recalibrate your goals anyway based on how you feel and/or your weight patterns vs what the calorie counts tell you.

crazygringo01/21/2025

> - sauces you make yourself?… but weighting and logging everything will take 3x the time to do the sauce itself

Yup, it will. Nobody said tracking nutrients was quick.

> - different cooking time in one receive : oignons going first, tomato sauce in the middle and parsley at the end (but still cook a bit with residual heat)

Cooking time doesn't matter for macronutrients.

> - Leftovers nutrients decrease with time

They don't for macronutrients.

> - different species/cultivation methods like the rustic small and dense cucumber from your neighbor and the spongy one from the supermarket in January

The differences don't really matter for calorie purposes. High-caloric things don't vary in density meaningfully.

You seem to be confusing tracking macronutrients (carbs, fats, protein) with micronutrients (vitamin C etc.). People track macros, generally to lose weight. I've never heard of anyone tracking micros. I don't think it's even possible.

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Retr0id01/21/2025

I don't, but what I did do was track everything obsessively in a spreadsheet for about a week, while exercising and eating and sleeping a nominally correct amount. As you indicate, it's a lot of manual effort to track everything like that, and I couldn't see myself doing it long term.

But over that week, I "calibrated" myself. I know, vibe-wise, how it feels to be eating the correct amount of food. And now I just keep doing that.

IanCal01/21/2025

It depends why you're tracking things, and what level of "everything" you care about.

Starting with pretty much everything can be a good idea for people to get a sense of what's in what foods. How much does an onion typically weigh? What's that actually adding? What's the difference between getting lean and fattier meat? How much oil are you really adding?

After that it's easier to start dropping things - if I'm trying to lose weight I simply do not care precisely how much celery I've added for the sofrito. I do care about the amount of butter, oil, rice, bread, pasta though.

I'm not concerned about getting fat adding paprika, so I'm not weighing spices. Even if I'm trying to track macros that's just not going to be a considerable contributor to anything.

> - different cooking time in one receive : oignons going first, tomato sauce in the middle and parsley at the end (but still cook a bit with residual heat)

Prep/measure things first.

Last three things that smooth things over for me

1. Meal prep on a different day. I'm not in as much of a rush at night, it's proportionally less time involved measuring something for a larger number of meals/sauces/components.

2. Having measuring spoons and fast scales nearby.

3. Measuring before & after amounts rather than exactly what to add. If I need to add butter to a sauce until it's the right consistency, or flour to a dough, or whatever then weighing as I go is a nightmare. Instead just weigh it before and after and you'll see what you used. This tip works pretty well for oil too.

LPisGood01/21/2025

I don’t do this anymore, but when I was, the answers are as follows:

I didn’t make a ton of sauces myself, but if it was then I would round spices down to zero and weigh the main caloric components (think mayo, soy sauce, sugar, oil, tomato paste, etc)

I always weighed the uncooked food, so different cooking times was a non factor.

As for nutrients decreasing, I dealt with this by not believing in it. Seriously though, I was tracking fats, carbs, and proteins which to my knowledge do not meaningfully decay in non negligible amounts.

I lived alone so I didn’t often have to cook for multiple people. When I did I would just make 2 omelets or waffles or whatever and weigh mine.

As far as different species/cultivation methods, I realized there was an absolute edge to my ability to track. For example: bread is often listed at 70 calories per slice, but if you weigh each slice, you’ll find it deviates from what the package considers a “slice” of bread substantially. Further, you’ll often find packages that are inconsistent. For example, you might see a box that claims 14g of a food is 5 calories but the entire 28g container is also listed at 15 calories.

ApolloFortyNine01/21/2025

In what you listed under making a sauce, only mayo and the oils need to be weighed (unless it's some ridiculous amount of seeds). If you don't already know whats high calorie you learn quickly, in reality the average person gets the bulk of their calories from probably less than 10 items (flour/rice/chicken/etc).

screye01/21/2025

I track everything. (with caveats below)

It's less important to get the calorie numbers perfect, and more important to be consistent in your under/over reporting. To me, it's a tool to track the consistency of my diet. No amount of over/under reporting is hiding 2 slices of pizza on a graph.

In sweet dishes, 2 TBSP sugar is 120 calories. In savory dishes, 1 TBSP oil is 100 calories. None of the other minor ingredients have any appreciable calories. You should be able to predict quantities within a 1 TBSP tolerance range. The rest of your calories come from foods with visible volume, and chatgpt does a good job of predicting their calories from screenshots. With that, hopefully, you don't under-report any meal by more than 200 calories. If you're following a recipe, dump the whole thing into chatgpt, voila.

Over 2 meals, under-reporting by 200 calories feels like a lot. But wait to have 1 milkshake, beer or 1 tiny baklava and see the graph shoot beyond any of these pesky concerns. The goal is to track and be accountable for the latter: the ultra-palatable foods. The extra onions and parsley are not making you fat.

For outside food, you can find official numbers reported by fast food places. Add 20% to their estimate. Actually, add 10% to all estimates. Every your own food. If a full meal randomly lands under 500 calories. I look at it with scrutiny. It takes careful effort to stay under 500 and feel full. If it happens consistently and you don't lose weight, then you're tracking something wrong.

PSA: NUTS HAVE A SH*T TON OF CALORIES. ALWAYS REPORT THEM. YOU WILL BE SHOCKED. _____

The system has worked quite well for me.

In all cases, my weight gain has corresponded to long periods of door dashing, liquid calories & dessert binges. On these days, my daily calorie consumption jumps by ~800 calories. Getting your oil intake wrong by 1 TBSP makes no difference to that number. Focus on the main culprits.

____

P.S: ofc, if you care about micros, my comment is irrelevant.

yodsanklai01/21/2025

I suppose it depends what goals you're pursuing with your tracking. If it's simply losing weight, you can focus on the things with lots of calories in them. Oil, sugar, processed foods. Tomatoes, cucumber and lemon juice shouldn't be an issue.

Drakim01/21/2025

I bought myself a food weight to have at the kitchen but just like you I struggled with all the minor things that gets added in rapid succession. The trick is to get good enough at estimating within reason, and focus on one aspect such as calories.

Figure out what one table spoon of oil contains, and when you make a sauce use a table spoon while pouring to count roughly how much oil you are putting in.

For shared meals, or self-restricted portions, I just add the entire meal upfront to my book-keeping, and then after are are done eating I subtract what I didn't eat.

You don't need to keep track of the family history of your cucumbers.

krisoft01/21/2025

I'm not tracking right now, but used to. So I can answer your question with the caveat that yes it is a pain and I stopped doing it. :)

> sauces you make yourself? I often mix some different oils, mustard, seeds, miso, bit of leamon juice and spices… but weighting and logging everything will take 3x the time to do the sauce itself

Yes. The thing is that it also makes you aware of how much everything "costs" you in terms of calories. You become a lot more aware of how big a glug you give of that oil.

> different cooking time in one receive : oignons going first, tomato sauce in the middle and parsley at the end (but still cook a bit with residual heat)

I don't understand this part of your question.

> Leftovers nutrients decrease with time

My goal was not to be "accurate", but to lose weight. Overestimating slightly was in fact preferred. So this is not an effect I would have worried about.

> counting how much you take of a meal shared with others, especially when you serves yourself multiple time

You estimate. You know that the whole thing was X so if you eat a quarter of it that is 0.25*X.

> different species/cultivation methods like the rustic small and dense cucumber from your neighbor and the spongy one from the supermarket in January

Cucumber is flavoured water. Whatever is the variability in calories you can probably just ignore it.

ajmurmann01/21/2025

I've only done this on occasion when cooking for my spouse when she was counting.

The measuring of ingredients is much easier if you use a scale. A case like cold sauces where you can put the mixing vessel on the scale is the easiest case.

On sharing with others: I'd always calculate the total calories and total weight of the entire dish and then simply place the serving plate on the scale and calculate the taken calories based on the weight.

Azerty999901/21/2025

It's really just focused on a keto diet, but using the app at https://www.carbmanager.com you can look up low-carb foods really well and enter units in all kinds of ways. I know someone who successfully used it for about 2 months a while ago, but then they went off keto and the app DB didn't have many non-carb heavy foods.

jjj12301/21/2025

For me I mostly just try to log the high macro and/or calorie items. Like if I make a Caesar dressing I’m mostly counting the oil and if I’m being really meticulous I’ll measure the Parmesan and anchovy content. But I’ll ignore the 2tbsp lemon juice, garlic, mustard, etc. since it’s counting so little towards the totals I care about.

If you’re trying to measure your vitamin intake this may not work for you, though.

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tombert01/21/2025

> sauces you make yourself? I often mix some different oils, mustard, seeds, miso, bit of leamon juice and spices… but weighting and logging everything will take 3x the time to do the sauce itself

I can't speak for anyone else, and I actually do try and weigh everything, but if I forget to weigh or the portions are too small to measure with my cheap kitchen scale: I weigh out my serving of the finished product, and Google either the restaurant or premade-grocery-version of what I made and look at their nutrition labels.

Obviously it's not going to be perfect, but I figure that my homemade pizza sauce will have roughly the same ingredients as the Ragu pizza sauce at the grocery store and thus roughly the same calories and nutrition at a per-ounce level. I always assume that my homemade stuff is 20% higher in calories more just to compensate for uncertainty, but doing this I did manage to lose about 60lbs.

pc2g4d01/21/2025

I live by myself and "charge" calories to an account whenever I buy raw foods at the store or eat out. Then, whatever is in my house, I have already "accounted" for in my caloric budget. The strategy comes in figuring out what foods / combinations of foods leave me feeling satisfied. Beans (another great living-alone food, haha) are an allstar. I weigh ingredients for a lot of cooking only so I pace the consumption of rice, beans, etc.

The error in estimation of foods eaten out I treat as a constant factor baked into the daily caloric budget. If I'm gaining weight, the budget just needs to be tightened, i.e. rescaled to account for an error factor that was larger than anticipated. The problem basically becomes estimating one's own estimation error, then adjusting.

CalRobert01/21/2025

Eventually you learn recipes and their values. I memorised a lot of basics. But mostly I cut out non-vegetable carbohydrates and ate a ton of salads with nonfat Greek yogurt and hot sauce as a dressing, and whey protein.

abhaynayar01/21/2025

What I did is just get a rough estimate of calories of things I'm eating. Along with tracking weight every day. Then over a couple of weeks, calibrated calorie estimates with recorded weight changes. Developed an intuition.

After that, I never looked up another calorie, and counted based on how the food felt, and basically lost exactly 0.5 kg/week over a period of 5 months. (500 kcal deficit/day).

Even if I'm wrong for a particular meal, the over/under-estimates must be cancelling out. My food situation makes it extremely hard to actually calculate calories, so I had to develop this skill.

gadders01/21/2025

You're never going to be 100% precise for every day, but you should be able to be roughly correct in aggregate and the fact of recording what you eat makes you more conscious of what you put in your mouth.

bradlys01/21/2025

90%+ of the effort is just weighing everything and writing it down. If you make a lot of custom dishes that's fine - just save the recipe and measure out the ingredients consistently. Weigh out your portions and it's not a big deal...

People who are tracking everything are usually doing it because they're trying to achieve a particular goal that involves cutting or bulking. I don't know too many people who do rigorous calorie tracking to achieve maintenance unless their body is their profession.

chikere23201/21/2025

Macros are pretty stable though. A week old veggie has less vitamins than a fresh one, but the carbs are pretty unchanged. Trying to measure and weigh for micro nutrients seems doomed though.

As a way of life, weighing and counting macros also seems pretty doomed to because it's just so much work, but it's very doable for a few days to realign your view of what an appropriate amount of food is, if you're diligent and mindful enough to not have a soda or a snack without thinking

loeg01/21/2025

Getting the grams right goes a long way. At the end of the day, you're trying to approximately measure the caloric density per gram, and maybe macros (proportion protein / fat / carbs). You're thinking in way too fine detail for it to be sustainable. Even with a lax approach, it is pretty tedious.

I wouldn't really recommend tracking long-term, but doing it for a week or so just to get a sense of how much you're currently consuming is a good idea.

acuozzo01/21/2025

This probably doesn't count, but I pretty much eat the same thing every day. I think being pretty far along the autistic spectrum makes this easier for me than most.

sycren01/21/2025

I would imagine that having a camera videoing your preparation of ingredients and cooking would give enough data to classify the ingredients and the used volumes. From the video it should be easier to track the weight of everything... and perhaps depending on how the ingredients are used, determine/predict how the macronutrients are altered during the process.

jona-f01/21/2025

Well, caloric value isn't that exact to begin with, so there is no point in being overly exact. Afaik it's derived by burning the food and measuring the heat it produces, but your body doesn't burn it (like pyrolysis), it uses specialized proteins. So the energy conversion varies, some can't be digested at all.

cobalt01/22/2025

I would look at nutrition labels for ingredients, estimate how much I used and approximate calories. For prepared foods, I'd look at other common examples with known quantities on the internet and extrapolate.

NoboruWataya01/21/2025

On the first point, you only need to do it once and then you can reuse the information in future (assuming you stick to the same recipe).

For the other points, I think with any kind of data measurement there is a balance between precision and convenience. Trying to consistently track calories is hard enough, trying to track nutrients at the level of precision you are suggesting sounds technically challenging and frankly exhausting. I think a lot of people will take "average" values for a cucumber, an onion, etc. Like others have said, consistency in measurement is probably more important than finding the absolute truth.

yurishimo01/21/2025

For sauces, I either use a bottled sauce if I really want to stick to macros, or I try to make the exact same recipe each time and then I can select my previously created logged item in the diet app.

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ochoseis01/21/2025

For things I prepare in bulk myself (eg perhaps sauce in your case), I usually just get stats on the whole batch. Then just approximate per serving or average it over the whole batch.

myheartisinohio01/21/2025

I use myfitnesspal and try to get close. There is a lot of data in the database. It is a tool like anything else it just helps me eat more intentionally.

rat998801/21/2025

Sauces are quite easy in practice. Usually you can measure in table spoons or whatever.

mattlondon01/21/2025

I just measure the ingredients "roughly" and same with serving I try to eye-ball halving or quartering etc and don't worry too much about being super precise. 5g is enough precision for me, unless it is something like cheese or other high-fat things. And I don't count vegetables at all (apart from potato)

Some days you'll go over, others go under etc.

It helps a lot of your partner is also weighing etc

Where it is really hard though is at a BigCo office where food is free and self-served. I have no idea what I am loading onto my plate - I try to search for something similar in the app and deliberately over-estimate the quantity knowing that there is a tendency to under estimate.

Really though weighing things is almost beside the point. It's about being aware/mindful of what you are eating. Without tracking it, it is easy to absent mindedly just snack on things and then entirely forget about that brownie you had with your morning coffee, or that ice cream you had at lunch time. You start to make choices like "Hmm I wont have that chocolate now because it would be a disappointment not to have some for dessert at dinner time" etc, whereas without tracking you'd probably just eat everything and not even realise/remember/be-aware of it.

dkdbejwi38301/21/2025

adjusting seasoning/tasting as you go seems like it would complicate matters too, especially if you're in the heat of it and don't have time to stop and weigh that extra pinch of salt etc

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firesteelrain01/21/2025

I overestimate on some things because it is safer than underestimating.

matwood01/21/2025

I'm boring and cook roughly the same few meals over and over.

XorNot01/21/2025

I mean I eat very close to the same thing every day, so I am perhaps not the best example, but for example:

> - sauces you make yourself? I often mix some different oils, mustard, seeds, miso, bit of leamon juice and spices… but weighting and logging everything will take 3x the time to do the sauce itself

You weigh all this out once, store it as a recipe and just weigh how much sauce you're putting on things. Oils are so high calorie they're basically all the same, and the only other contributor is really if the seed mass is substantial. Log your upper end, and just assume the sauce comes out as that value. Your sauce recipe is hardly going to vary by an enormous amount, just provided you bias it towards the upper end for the purposes of tracking.

EDIT: Also since people have been dropping app links - https://github.com/davidhealey/waistline this is what I use on Android. Libre with nice integrations, works great.

RUnconcerned01/21/2025

Well, by weighing and logging everything. You are correct that it takes a lot longer when you do that. That's the cost of keeping track of your caloric intake. I also do not account for any nutrient loss or divergence from different cooking times, leftovers, or from different species.

I only weigh everything I eat when I am actively trying to lose weight, however, and when I am doing so I deliberately restrict my diet to meals where I won't waste a lot of time weighing everything. If I'm trying to maintain or gain weight, I don't really bother with it.

adrian_b01/21/2025

I have been obese for many years and also now if I do not pay attention to what I eat I gain weight immediately.

Eventually I have learned to control exactly what I eat, in order to control my weight, but I no longer find this difficult, mainly because normally I eat only what I cook myself (with the exception of trips away from home).

When I experiment how to cook something that I have never cooked before, after I reach a stable recipe with which I am content, I measure carefully every ingredient, either with digital kitchen scales or with a set of volumetric spoons. Then I compute the relevant nutrient content, e.g. calories, protein content, fatty acid profile, possibly some vitamin and mineral content, in the cases when there exists a significant content of that.

While I do this carefully the first time and I record the results, whenever I cook the same later I do not need to pay attention to this, because I already know the nutrient content, so summing for all the portions of food that I plan to eat in that day I can easily estimate the daily intake for everything.

The essential change in my habits that enabled me to lose the excessive weight was that in the past I was eating without paying attention to quantity, until I was satiated, while now I always plan what amount of food I will eat during a day and I always cook the food in portions of the size that I intend to eat, which is always the same for a given kind of food, so I no longer have to repeat any of the computations that I have made when I have determined for the first time a recipe.

In a recipe, things like spices can be ignored, because they add negligible nutrients. Even many vegetable parts, like leaves or stalks, or even some of the roots or of the non-sweet non-fatty fruits, may be ignored even when used in relatively great quantities, because their nutrient content is low. So such ingredients may be added while cooking without measuring them.

For many vegetables and fruits, which are added to food as a number of pieces, I do not measure them when cooking, but when buying. I typically buy an amount sufficient for next week, which is weighed during buying. Then I add every day a n approximate fraction of what I have bought, e.g. 1/7 if used for cooking every day. Then for estimating the average daily intake, I divide by 7 what I have bought for the week.

What cannot be ignored and must always be measured during cooking, to be sure that you add the right amount, are any kinds of seeds or nuts or meat or dairy or eggs, anything containing non-negligible amounts of starch or sugar, any kind of fat or oil or protein extracts. Any such ingredients must always be measured by weight or by volume, to be sure that you add the right amount to food.

Nevertheless, measuring the important ingredients adds negligible time to cooking and ensures perfectly reproducible results.

I eat only what I cook myself and I measure carefully everything that matters, but the total time spent daily with measurements is extremely small. I doubt that summing all the times spent with measuring food ingredients during a whole day can give a total of more than one minute or two. Paring and peeling vegetables or washing dishes takes much more time.

jjcob01/21/2025

I've done that for weight loss, so I focussed on calories only. That was pretty easy:

- while cooking, you weigh every ingredient. Either I just take photos of the scale with my phone, or I write it on a sheet of paper.

- when cooking is done, you weigh the total food (easiest if you know the weight of your pots)

- when eating, you weigh your portions

After some time, you realise that you need to be precise for some things (oil, butter) but can just guess or ignore some things (eg. onions and miso have so little calories that you really don't need to weigh them).

If it's a dish like Lasagna, you don't even need to weigh it at the end, just estimate what fraction of the dish your serving is.

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valval01/21/2025

Tracking and weighing everything is a massive waste of time and energy. There are no obese animals (humans included) in the wild. Just stop eating the wrong things.

I maintain a muscular 225 by eating dairy, eggs, and meat. If I want to drop down to 215, I drop dairy.

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