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rs186yesterday at 7:23 PM12 repliesview on HN

If you are a top AI researcher, there is no good reason to go to Amazon. For what? Pay? Career development? Company prospect? Work-life balance? You get nothing compared to what other companies offer.

And I say, good. We need new, smaller companies with different cultures in this space. We don't want these giant corporations to dominate and control everything.


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bdangubicyesterday at 7:31 PM

> We need new, smaller companies with different cultures in this space

we need new, smaller companies with different cultures in every space but won’t be getting any in any space, especially not in this one

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screyetoday at 12:31 AM

Amazon and Apple have never had fundamental research groups. Even before LLMs, the top big-tech fundamental labs were FAIR, Google Research and MSR.

It has never been in Amazon or Apple's DNA to chase a product that doesn't have clear revenue outcomes (as long as adoption lands). AI is no different.

IMO, it's the right decision for Amazon and wrong decision for Apple.

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prmphyesterday at 9:47 PM

This. It's weird how most of the top tech companies are all morphing into amorphous blobs that want to get into everything and are indistinguishable from each other.

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maxdoyesterday at 10:10 PM

Yeah, they will come, new companies from China, that will eat the market too, with their beautiful 996 work life balance, and we will go back to growing corn.

As a bonus you will have a very long vacation.

We, the tech, are literally a leftover of the once overwhelming engineering superiority of the west that will shrink in the next 5 years.

thinkingtoiletyesterday at 7:30 PM

The problem is that when you start that smaller company and it gets successful, you will be acquired. Big companies rarely build things anymore.

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daft_pinkyesterday at 7:41 PM

They sponsor your visa. That’s it.

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ants_everywhereyesterday at 10:48 PM

Smaller companies will still be VC backed, which limits the variation you'll see in culture

crystal_revengetoday at 2:37 AM

Even if you’re a mid-tier AI researcher… or even a hobbyist one, I can’t see a good reason to go to Amazon.

jstummbilligyesterday at 7:41 PM

If that is how you feel, then the reason for why it currently is the way it is should not give you much comfort. It's not like Amazon can not decide to change things and throw more money at the issue from a different angle in the future.

SilverElfinyesterday at 8:49 PM

Yep Amazon should be split up. No reason that AWS, Alexa, satellite internet, their online store, and groceries have to be one company.

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awesome_dudeyesterday at 9:37 PM

The current SoA AI requires massive investment and CPU time (which isn't free)

No matter who is funding that, they are going to be pushing hard for a return (ell, unless they like money going up in smoke)

mountainriveryesterday at 9:36 PM

AWS has now become one of the most hated tools, right next to Jenkins.

Amazon is turning into a dinosaur like Cisco or IBM.

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