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pinkmuffinereyesterday at 8:20 PM4 repliesview on HN

lol I never made that connection — in Turkish, zero is sıfır, which does sound a lot like cipher. Also, password is şifre, which again sounds similar. Looking online, apparently the path is sifr (Arabic, meaning zero) -> cifre (French, first meaning zero, then any numeral, then coded message) -> şifre (Turkish, code/cipher)


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celaleddinyesterday at 9:20 PM

Nice! Imagine the second meaning going back to Arabic and now it's a full loop! It can even override the original meaning given enough time and popularity (not especially for "zero", but possibly for another full-loop word).

cgioyesterday at 10:57 PM

The Turkish password word may be the same used for signature? I suspect so, because in Greek we have the Greek word for signature but also a Turkish loan word τζίφρα (djifra).

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elbeartoday at 8:59 AM

In Romanian:

- cifru -> cipher

- cifră -> digit

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ls-ayesterday at 8:34 PM

All world languages are a deviation from Arabic

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