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n4r9yesterday at 1:08 PM8 repliesview on HN

I frame it not as turning a dial down, but as switching channel from practical problem-solver to emotional problem-solver.

Often when someone wants to talk about a situation involving difficult feelings, they're actually trying to process those feelings: to understand where the feelings are coming from, to be validated, and to be able to take a broader perspective.

You can help by being curious about what they're saying, reflecting it back to them in your own terms, explaining how what they're feeling is understandable, and offering context or alternative viewpoints. These are actually complex problem-solving skills, although they can all fall under the umbrella of what people mean when they say "to be heard".

As a man, I've realised that once my emotions feel validated and accepted, I relax and the practical solutions just pop into my mind.


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Aurornisyesterday at 1:59 PM

> they're actually trying to process those feelings: to understand where the feelings are coming from, to be validated, and to be able to take a broader perspective.

If you’re speaking to a rational person with good intentions and good self-management this can help a lot.

If the other person doesn’t have good emotional regulation and is prone to catastrophizing, exaggeration, or excessive self-victimization then validating and reinforcing their emotions isn’t always helpful. It can be harmful.

I know this goes against the Reddit-style relationship stereotype where the man must always listen and nod but not offer suggestions, but when someone is prone to self-destructive emotional thought loops behind their emotional validator can be actively harmful. Even if validation is what they seek and want.

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thisislife2yesterday at 1:40 PM

> switching channel from practical problem-solver to emotional problem-solver

Thank you for this useful tip! I've recently become aware that I may not be as good a listener I thought I was - I too make the common mistake of immediately offering solutions, or talking too much about my own relatable situations and feelings, instead of trying to really listen to them and help them figure out their own world view and feelings of a particular situation (and thus understand them better too in the process).

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dan00yesterday at 2:14 PM

> Often when someone wants to talk about a situation involving difficult feelings, they're actually trying to process those feelings: to understand where the feelings are coming from, to be validated, and to be able to take a broader perspective.

Right, talking about feelings is a way of regulating yourself.

Conflicts with my wife are a lot easier if I'm able to empathize with her emotional distress, acknowledging it, instead of jumping directly into logical problem solving. If I'm only looking logically at the issue, I can't really understand the issue she is having.

I like the view of the therapist Terry Real, that during conflicts you can either be right or stay connected. That doesn't mean that you hide your views, but that you also emotionally acknowledge the view of your partner. It's surprising how effectively this takes out the fire in conflicts.

funkyfiddler69yesterday at 1:54 PM

> they're actually trying to process those feelings

Exactly, help exploring their problem, maybe direct them into one nook or the other, support a proper perspective from different angles (to a small extent within the context and constraints they provided!!!), but don't solve the riddle for them. They might not even know how they really feel about it all, yet.

randusernameyesterday at 5:18 PM

> I frame it not as turning a dial down, but as switching channel from practical problem-solver to emotional problem-solver.

This perspective was a good stepping stone for me, but then I realized I needed bigger changes to keep growing. However I defined the problem to be solved, I was still setting up a dynamic that was arrogant. I thought I was air traffic control when others were looking for a copilot. Somebody along for the ride with them, not just requesting information about them and offering commentary from the ground.

Reading _How to Know a Person_ helped me a lot.

jkestneryesterday at 3:42 PM

> You can help by being curious about what they're saying, reflecting it back to them in your own terms

Yes! Be an emotional rubber duck.

lazideyesterday at 1:21 PM

Be careful you don’t end up with people who have constant emotional problems that need fixing - or that you’re 100% sure that you’ll never need to say ‘no’. Speaking from experience.

Some people really don’t like ‘no’, especially when they have emotional problems.

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