alt Hacker NewsShow HN: Mystral Native – Run JavaScript games natively with WebGPU (no browser)
Hi HN, I've been building Mystral Native — a lightweight native runtime that lets you write games in JavaScript/TypeScript using standard Web APIs (WebGPU, Canvas 2D, Web Audio, fetch) and run them as standalone desktop apps. Think "Electron for games" but without Chromium. Or a JS runtime like Node, Deno, or Bun but optimized for WebGPU (and bundling a window / event system using SDL3).
Why: I originally started by starting a new game engine in WebGPU, and I loved the iteration loop of writing Typescript & instantly seeing the changes in the browser with hot reloading. After getting something working and shipping a demo, I realized that shipping a whole browser doesn't really work if I also want the same codebase to work on mobile. Sure, I could use a webview, but that's not always a good or consistent experience for users - there are nuances with Safari on iOS supporting WebGPU, but not the same features that Chrome does on desktop. What I really wanted was a WebGPU runtime that is consistent & works on any platform. I was inspired by deno's --unsafe-webgpu flag, but I realized that deno probably wouldn't be a good fit long term because it doesn't support iOS or Android & doesn't bundle a window / event system (they have "bring your own window", but that means writing a lot of custom code for events, dealing with windowing, not to mention more specific things like implementing a WebAudio shim, etc.). So that got me down the path of building a native runtime specifically for games & that's Mystral Native.
So now with Mystral Native, I can have the same developer experience (write JS, use shaders in WGSL, call requestAnimationFrame) but get a real native binary I can ship to players on any platform without requiring a webview or a browser. No 200MB Chromium runtime, no CEF overhead, just the game code and a ~25MB runtime.
What it does: - Full WebGPU via Dawn (Chrome's implementation) or wgpu-native (Rust) - Native window & events via SDL3 - Canvas 2D support (Skia), Web Audio (SDL3), fetch (file/http/https) - V8 for JS (same engine as Chrome/Node), also supports QuickJS and JSC - ES modules, TypeScript via SWC - Compile to single binary (think "pkg"): `mystral compile game.js --include assets -o my-game` - macOS .app bundles with code signing, Linux/Windows standalone executables - Embedding API for iOS and Android (JSC/QuickJS + wgpu-native)
It's early alpha — the core rendering path works well & I've tested on Mac, Linux (Ubuntu 24.04), and Windows 11, and some custom builds for iOS & Android to validate that they can work, but there's plenty to improve. Would love to get some feedback and see where it can go!
MIT licensed.
Comments
Very cool! This reminds me of Ejecta, which was something like this for 2D games on iOS, a very long time ago: https://impactjs.com/ejecta
As a gamedev i love it, if you bet on JS for games and need "native" packaging then the platform runtimes has been quite a bit hit-or-miss but with V8 as default (or JSC) then it's sane runtimes with a good WebGPU backend (same as in the browsers).
Only thing "missing" is perhaps a companion builder to emulate the C++ API with a WKWebView bundling setup for iOS.
For those reading, if Apple still disallows JIT:ed code, then a WKWebView might still be the best option in terms of pure JS simulation performance even if the WebView might steal some GPU perf.
What's the story/idea on controls (thin DOM emulation for pointerevents,keyboard,etc?), accelerometers, input-fields and fonts.
As much as I like controlling what I render, having good support for font/input-handling and system inputs is a clear plus of using web tech.
This is so interesting!! I had a very similar idea! I would love to see if you could port games made with phaser or three js to this engine (though I think anything that involves the DOM is a no go sadly)
Great project! I also had similar thoughts when I saw ability to make WebGPU calls in deno. I wonder how performant could games get on this runtime
Cool project and very clear explanation for the motivation kudos!
Very interesting. It would be great if this works with a "higher" level library like Pixi.js or Phaser.js, that way one could build with ease in JS/TS, using a rich library/ecosystem and still distribute a "native" app (it probably already works with these libs but not sure).