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dagmxyesterday at 7:04 PM10 repliesview on HN

This is going to be a huge chilling factor for employees. You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy.

Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.


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Blackthornyesterday at 10:33 PM

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of people. My irony detector is sparking so badly I think it's about to blow.

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PradeetPatelyesterday at 8:12 PM

Tbh that's to be expected, the work machine is the company's property and there shouldn't be any expectation of privacy.

I work at a tech firm in India, and we are encouraged to create skills.md based on the traits of our colleagues, with the intention of reducing key personnel risk. A handful of engineers were let go as the result of a re-alignment, and their AI counterparts are actively maintaining their code.

I wonder if this is where they are going.

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BeetleByesterday at 8:38 PM

> You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy.

When I joined the workforce a long time ago, I went in with the mindset that: Their property, their equipment, their right to monitor (or even keylog).

I was pleasantly surprised to find that not to be the case, but I've always believed in their right to do so.

Why do people expect to have a right to do non-work related stuff on the job? Every company I've worked for states in the employment contract/policies what you can and cannot do on the job. They never enforce it to the extent that they outline in the policies, but it's usually clear cut.

If you want to rant about the company, do it outside the company! Or at a physical water cooler. When coworkers want to rant to me about the company, they don't use Slack/Teams. They message my personal, non-work number.

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everdriveyesterday at 7:21 PM

Yes, but I cannot imagine Meta cares about chilling their employees. They're deep into the "extract more value" phase and are no longer bringing in the cutting edge talent.

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simmerupyesterday at 7:08 PM

Yeah, if at any time Mark can ask Meta AI ‘which of my employees insulted me today’ for example, that’s wild

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layman51yesterday at 8:18 PM

Question: I have heard that at some tech companies that use internal chat software, the general practice is for IT to set it so that the messages are automatically deleted at the end of the day. In Google Chat this is a feature called "turn off history", and the idea behind it is that it can reduce a paper trail when there are investigations into the company doing something that's potentially monopolistic or otherwise shady.

If keystrokes are captured, isn't this a double-edged sword where maybe the company might be inadvertently collecting evidence against itself if there's an investigation and the investigators want to collect keystrokes?

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sassymuffinzyesterday at 10:07 PM

Highly ironic that people who spend their lives building things that invade everyone else's privacy might now whinge about privacy themselves.

gwerbinyesterday at 7:22 PM

That's not a bug, that's a feature

b65e8bee43c2ed0yesterday at 8:40 PM

if you use your work machine at Facebook for dissent, you don't deserve a tech-adjacent job.

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mulmenyesterday at 8:55 PM

It's absolutely wild to me that anyone has ever operated under any other assumption. If you want to complain about your boss do it at happy hour.

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