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comrade1234yesterday at 8:25 PM9 repliesview on HN

Nice pass. Would be perfect for my wife and I since we don't commute for work. There is something similar here in Switzerland but not as good.

Funny fact: there are cities here that have tried to make public transport free. But the constitution says public transport must have a "reasonable charge". It's obvious that law was created to not overcharge but the courts have ruled that it also means that there can't be no charge. So no free public transport.


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wavemodeyesterday at 8:42 PM

My understanding of that ruling is that, the intent of the constitutional clause is not only to prevent ticket prices from being raised unfairly, but also to prevent ticket prices from being so low that they no longer cover the cost of running the network, which would shift that cost to the general taxpayer.

Still frustrating (if the taxpayers want it, might as well let them have it), but not purely a semantic technicality.

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test1235yesterday at 8:36 PM

having a nominal charge would probably lead to less abuse of the system, and any contribution to the upkeep/maintenance would be welcome, I'd imagine

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greggoByesterday at 8:33 PM

I wasn't aware of that fun fact - I always just assumed it was down to the "personal responsibility" mindset ("people must pay for what they use").

Have the courts also said anything about the charge being super low, e.g. like a CHF 1 per month abo or such? I wonder if that would be a way around those rulings.

milesvpyesterday at 8:45 PM

That sort of begs the question about elevators and escalators. I’ve never been charged riding those, and I can’t imagine fares tacked on in Switzerland. Have they been ruled on? An elevator in a public building is very much public transport.

I know it’s stupid, but I’m genuinely curious now.

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ivanjermakovyesterday at 8:54 PM

Free public transport routes worldwide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_public_transport_...

euroderfyesterday at 9:00 PM

What's the largest-value coin in circulation ? Charge one of those. Drop a coin in the gumball machine, get a token.

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bottle_roketyesterday at 8:47 PM

The trains can still charge, but what if the government pays the tab automatically?

Vasloyesterday at 8:48 PM

People who use it more really should contribute something vs those who never use it.

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gib444yesterday at 8:52 PM

Personally, I find no charge very, very reasonable lol