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Itadakimasu: A word you say to the food, not the cook

94 pointsby surprisetalktoday at 3:23 PM48 commentsview on HN

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rootsudotoday at 7:19 PM

Article falls flat, there’s more,

https://cotoacademy.com/itadakimasu-and-gochisousamadesu/

I could write it up, but this article explains it more. You should really be learning Gochisousama Deshita (ごちそうさまでした) too.

I feel the article is flat because normally you learn both expressions at the same time because it completes a small ritual to, literally thank the cook.

Also em dash galore.

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no_multitudestoday at 7:25 PM

Claude, pick an arbitrary Japanese word that shows up often in anime and write a blog post about how deep it is.

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syockittoday at 4:31 PM

Fun trivia: the greeting only started to become a thing during the Meiji era as part of moral and ethics education. It may be argued that it has its roots in Buddhist teachings, but there's a theory that the drive to make it a common household practice may have come from the envoys who came back from western countries and saw the Christian prayer and thought it was a good thing to imitate. It's quite a stretch, but personally I find it quite interesting given that it was an era where Westernization was the craze.

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buildingsramentoday at 4:30 PM

I feel like this is intellectualizing something that isn't that deep. It's a word you say, not think about. Why do English speakers say "excuse me" after a sneeze? The answer is apocryphal and uninteresting.

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ricardobeattoday at 6:31 PM

Claude seems to be really into japanese customs.

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Michelangelo11today at 4:13 PM

> The gloss is not wrong. But it has quietly relocated the word.

Thanks, Fable

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dllutoday at 3:51 PM

Japanese also has a word you say to the cook, ご馳走様でした (gochisousama deshita) but that's said after the meal as thanks.

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stevefan1999today at 5:39 PM

Another fun fact: itadakimasu is categorized as a keigo, or more specifically, kenjougo, an honorific expression that depreciates speaker itself. And since itadaku is an advanced version of morau to show that "I am of lower status", so the whole expression should be (from the gods/kamisama/the people above me who brings me here for the feast) I humbly receives.

This is also why you say itadakimasu even when alone, despite there are apparently no one superior than you exists, but no, it is now the gods you appreciate

ASalazarMXtoday at 5:56 PM

We've always thanked the cook, specially if it's a homemade meal. Sometimes I wish we showed some respect for the things that died so we could live, but food is so plentiful nowadays that we can't show respect to everything, and some things are so unnaturally ultraprocessed that they don't deserve any respect.

orangebreadtoday at 5:27 PM

Seems like a form of expressing gratitude for the food you're about to eat, and not an exclusive practice to Buddhism or Christianity. There is an intrinsic spiritual element to giving grace before eating.

teklatoday at 4:34 PM

Its strange because I knew the point from the article already, but it kinda seems like some sort of strawman? I think many cultures have a way of saying "thanks for the food" in a universal way and not the cook. Even in western cultures there is "saying grace" and I don't think anyone would mistake it for it being aimed at the cook.

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itpragmatiktoday at 6:03 PM

अन्न हे पूर्णब्रह्म

timetraveller26today at 5:09 PM

Where I am from we say "Gracias a Dios" after a meal. Childs and even non-religious people say it as a reflex.

It's a common joke to question why we thank God instead of the person who actually cooked the meal.

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waffletowertoday at 4:52 PM

ごちそうさまでした。「gochisousama deshita」 This can be said to the cook. I heard "いただきます!"「itadakimasu」more frequently for a variety of reasons. But it is common to shout out to thank the cook when you leave a restaurant. I became comfortable doing it myself.

acchowtoday at 7:20 PM

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bitwizetoday at 3:58 PM

I always thought it was to the gods, spirits, kami, whatever "it" or "they" were that allowed you to eat. Though it could be either, or both at once; when members of Native American tribes would make a kill on the hunt, they would pay their respects to the spirit of the animal they just killed. Even if it was the spirit of a fish they had just speared, giving its life so they could eat another day.

I kind of admire the Japanese for their capacity to live humbly and gratefully without need for a big-sky-daddy myth. The world of the traditional Japanese is full of hidden wonders; indeed, it really belongs to them, and we just live in it.

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