> I am yet to hear people call caffeine effects "ill effects". People and their sociocultural biases, uh?

Coffee has well known ill-effects, I think every coffee drinker at one point have drank too much and felt them themselves. Apparently such a big topic that it isn't just a section of the Caffeine page, it has it's very own Wikipedia page! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine_toxicity

There are a lot of people with a cultural bias toward hallucinations, who want really hard to get high off anything that could allegedly make them high.

But despite that, this mushroom is not a popular recreational drug. Much like amanita muscaria, which certain people insist must be great if used right, is common as dirt, and yet is so unpopular as a drug that it isn't even restricted.

By these same accounts, you'll get sick. It's unpleasant. Not even the most enthusiastic "psychonauts" seem to manage to take joy in this thing, little people or not.

> People and their sociocultural biases

No, intent matters. If you drugged someone with caffeine (or someone drank it not knowing what it was) then their symptoms would also be called ill effects.

Unknowingly taking psychedelic substances is nothing positive, however positive outlook you may have on them.

Seeing things that don't exist is generally detrimental to your short term survival.

It is undoubtedly a bias against joy which wasn't "earned" or "deserved," especially through technology or social class. Similar to how non-white races are accepted as athletes. It's culturally ok for "them" to experience and do/take that as long as it sustains the boundary between us and them. Otherwise, "we" perform a safe version of it, such as time-boxed group imagination of the Christmas elf. Participating in group illusions on a computer screen is allowed bc our bodies remain free from our own control - that's the job of the culture that "got us here." (White boomers). Plays by contrast are suspect bc they require few resources, little dependence on the controlled world and bc they leave room for unsanctioned corporeal participation.

I'm sure most will disagree with me, that's ok. In fact, it's generally required of most to virtually "stone" anyone espousing these viewpoints in order to maintain your position in the post-corporeal hierachy... Wouldn't want this tribe to appear sympathetic to the wrong viewpoints.

Not sure if it's the same here, but I've been told your usual 'trip' off psilocybin bearing mushrooms is really just a form of food-poisoning

What's funny about that? If people started hallucinating from coffee that would be considered an ill effect.

Some ADHD stimulant medications quite literally boost your mood. A literal anti-depression pill.

This function is listed as a side effect of being on these meds. Which is true, it's not being used to treat depression, though is often being used to treat people with depression and treat the root cause of that depression. It just also happens to "perk" you up.

If you're basing your perception of sociocultural biases on what you (1 person) have seen or not seen, you may be speaking to your own biases, rather than others'

To wit: multiple people here have definitely heard the thing you have yet to hear.

The large majority of people want absolutely nothing to do with hallucinations

Are you talking about caffeine dependence? For many people, caffeine itself feels beneficial.