Siri AI

I read through the entire DMA rant that apple has here: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...

This feels like it could be solved with a list of permissions that the user has to turn on when using 3rd party AI.

Apple already:

    1) requires developers to submit ID to publish an app on the appstore (at least I had to after ~1000 downloads to be able to publish an update)
    2) has strong kernel enforced memory integrity and disallowes arbitrary code execution (unless explicitely approved for games like roblox, jitting not allowed tho has to be interpreted).
    3) reviews every app update.

I didn't really see anything that knocked my socks off. Mostly, it's the promise that Siri now works in the way in which they said it would work a few years ago, when it didn't. I do like the addition of Siri in the context menu, though. I can see that being useful.

The demo Mike Rockwell gave at WWDC was interesting. He kinda showed off Siri as like the Star Trek computer for your phone. I hope this is the direction Apple is going to continue in. Having AI as a user interface is way more interesting than chat bots, image editors, or copy editing.

I switched from android to iOS 7 years ago and I’ve actually been debating going back just because of how bad iOS is at AI. And every other facet of my life, I am finding ways for it to save my time on an almost daily basis. And yet on iOS, just finding something from a text Message is still a nightmare.

Siri seems to rarely get better and sometimes actually get worse.

In Feb this year, when I analyzed KuzuDB's source code, I predicted Apple's reasoning to buy them was to introduce Siri with cross-app personal context. "..WWDC 2026 or 2027 introduces any “contextual intelligence” features in Siri that require cross-app relationship reasoning." https://medium.com/data-science-collective/i-analyzed-163k-l.... There is no confirmation on which tech is being used to achive that though

Microsoft cannot compete in browser race and has to adopt Chromium.

Apple cannot compete in AI and has to adopt Gemini

Google is a really amazing company.

I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.

None for the EU

Is it available in China at least or is this another “50% of the userbase gets nothing new in the OS update” year?

Edit: https://x.com/wongmjane/status/2064052590992916840?s=46

Lol

Wait, I got an iPhone 15 Pro Max because supposedly it was compatible with Apple Intelligence. But now it’s not supporting this?

>Fix passwords with a tap. >The Passwords app alerts you to weak or compromised passwords and can update them on your behalf without the hassle.

Finally, I hope this works well. Personally one of the worst things to deal with.

They’re adding vibecoded shortcuts (the high level scripting for Apple devices). Hopefully that means they worked out some of the long-existing bugs and missing features, but I’m not optimistic. Still, could be a useful tool, especially for less tech-literate people.

> Aga sent you a message about Calanthea, a plant.

> Aga: have you heard of Calanthea? It’s a plant.

Really groundbreaking use of AI!

> coming this fall

I believe we also heard that a couple years ago.

It's funny, I'm so thankful none of my Apple hardware is new enough to run much of this garbage. I'd switch off as much as I possibly could anyway…

This looks pretty promising to me. It will likely replace the need to set up OpenClaw for average personal users. The work of getting email, messages, and all the personal data on the phone as context seamlessly is not as straightforward as one might think.

I'm curious how the pricing will work. Would it be free up to some limit and then some subscription pricing? I can't imagine it can be free unlimited usage given the price of serving these models.

The chatbots(ChatGPT, Claude et al) showed Apple exactly what can be done, the user base is already well primed. So this is a product definition done for them to execute. If done well they will be able to provide a much stronger integration into the day to day use cases than the chatbots, and can siphon off user time from them. This time around the end to end is easier with Apple Intelligence and more importantly llms doing the work Apple is floundering at. So I am hopeful, but I still see the os/app level integration as not enough in terms of functionality to make it a hit. The primary use case for llms is still conversations and search. Apple should be focusing on that aspect primarily and also add the os/app level integration as a bonus - as something only they can do. If they just do the latter, it will not be as much of a success. Let’s see how they execute.

EDIT: To provide meaningful chat functionality they have to either eat up the cost or charge a subscription for it. This will be first time they charge for Siri - a product that doesn’t garner any positive reviews. This gets even more interesting to watch

I sincerely hope this can all be disabled.

In English!? Someone please Apple that LLMs can deal with multiple languages at once without the old “go to Settings to configure your language”

Before they add AI they better fix the frigging search function in settings, it is horrible, you need to know their exact words, and Apple has a funny naming sense. Hierarchies nested so deep you never find anything. I come to use Claude or ChatGPT to tell me the right incantations to find a setting.

I wonder if Apple actually posttrained or at least finetuned this model or if it's just standard gemma. I feel it'd be bad practice if they didn't at least have some training atop it for apple's tools. Also you don't really hear much about apple's in-housed private compute servers anymore, did they get outmoded? I only hear about them using nvidia now.

I wonder how much of Siri AI is Apple-developed and how much of it is Google-developed as a result of Gemini. The a) search demos and b) image generation demos seem unlikely to have been done by Apple alone, the demos being closer to Google Search and Nano Banana respectively.

They should have changed the name as per branding. I hear Siri, I subconsciously associate it with really bad software.

I wonder if they got around to the Finder date-sorting bug that's been around for about 10 years.

Apple's execution on AI is the worst of anything I can think of they have worked on in the past 20 years. It's embarrassing they announced this with a vague "coming this fall" when they basically have completely lost credibility in their ability to ship AI features considering it was initially announced YEARS ago.

I think a lot of it is the old "perfect is the enemy of good" with Apple trying multiple times now to announce this big basket of all these AI features supposedly coming all at once instead of just regularly shipping new useful AI integrations every month. There was so much easy useful shit that was immediately apparent as soon at OpenAI dropped that first big voice mode years ago coupled with basic app integrations. Particularly in the context of the AI labs that are operating in that lane almost too much where it seems a new model or mode comes out every two weeks.

I like the idea for normal people. Day to day usage who ignore hallucinations is a big market.

> Siri AI coming in English later this year.

Strange way to phrase it, but okay.

> Siri AI will be available In beta later this year and requires an Apple Intelligence–enabled device set to a supported language. Available in English to start. Siri AI will not initially be available in the EU on iOS and iPadOS.

Ah okay, not EU enabled. The only reason for this, in my tinfoil hat, must be for data farming.

The automatically update of my compromised passwords on websites is very impressive, and I wonder how it's achieved.

The killer app would be a locally run Siri that learns about you and your preferences.

If that Siri orb fails to respond after this release, I'm done with Apple.

In my opinion, this is late by almost two years. This should have been the v1 when they first presented Apple Intelligence.

We heard a lot of things, but unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it won't work as expected.

> Available on iPhone 17 Pro, iPhone 17 Pro Max, iPhone Air, iPad models with M4 and later and at least 12GB of unified memory, and Mac models with M3 and later and at least 12GB of unified memory.

It’s really disappointing to see the on-device models being limited to so few devices. And this was after the iPhone 16 and 16 Pro were marketed so heavily with supporting their now failed effort at AI.

Will I be convinced to change my iphone 6s? #suspense

Week if its like the current apple intelligence feature,I don't care if we don't get in the eu.

I don't care much about Siri, and not a lot about Apple (other than as an investment), but Apple is generally really good about putting out polished tech, and so I'm curious if Siri AI will be up to their usual standards, because if so, it represents a significant usage of AI that has solved hallucination issues.

But that's a big If!

Amazing how this time Apple found the `sweet spot` to release Siri AI when the letter combination A and I has fed up literally everyone.

The only thing I want to know about this new Siri is how to turn it entirely off.

It’s weird it says I can ask Siri about a document in front of me but can I ask it about a webpage I’m currently reading?

(It’s been driving me crazy there’s no “AI this” button to discuss whatever is on my screen.)

> Private Cloud Compute

> Your data is never stored

> Used only for your requests

> Verifiable privacy promise

Apple is cooking. Although at that point might as well bring the cloud features to more devices. Yeah it costs more but also locks users in harder.

Its wild to me that people use those apple emoji people. It looks so bad.

Hm, second try? And Siri AI again without dates. First time it was also “later” but was postponed for how many years?

Apple Shortcuts have felt like a blatantly obvious AI play to me for a while now.

The interface for creating them manually has been so bad for so long, it feels clear to me that LLM-driven shortcut orchestration was always the endgame. Apple built up their ecosystem of composable "tools", and then trained an LLM on how to call them.

The result, IMO, is the first OpenClaw/Hermes competitor that's feasible for use by the general public.

Everyone with a paid Claude or ChatGPT that they're struggling to use to the fullest is going to have very little reason not to swap over to an upgraded iCloud+ plan (if they don't already have one). I suspect we're going to see mass cancellation of $20/mo plans very soon.

OpenAI's timing for removing their temporary increased usage limits is looking pretty unfortunate...

Please don’t suck.

Here's hoping they've finally fixed iOS's terrible dictation.

The screenshot about pho is funny to me. Bean sprouts are not a good source of fiber. Noodles are not especially healthy. The broth base is not fish sauce, nor is fish sauce where broth gets most of its sodium. Slop city!

> We’re deeply disappointed that our EU users won’t have Siri AI on iPhone or iPad when we share our new software releases later this year

I really enjoy this lag. Apple with the whole DMA made iPhone completely dull to my eyes. Previously? Updated yearly. Now? 3+ years without replacement and probably will stick to it for next 2-3 years.

Sure maybe in US Apple is fun. But in EU it's.. boring (and not like a Golang boring, just boring)

How is this different from the chatgpt apple intelligence thing from last year?

This whole "coming this fall", "later this year", it's annoying. I miss the days when Steve Jobs used to say "and it's available right now, you can demo it in the hall outside, we're going ot make a billion dollars by tonight."